From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 1 19:26:56 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA22QtQV027149 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:26:56 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA22Qt5V027148 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:26:55 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.114]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id lA22QsC5027139 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:26:54 -0700 Received: (qmail 57724 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2007 02:26:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ROtnbJi0DQ8b2T6WS94Qb/6JfYxgOeOy9Ilk/RFO/vRbBmUG8xRoEsle8fey68EYouSB9A7rvfyRIxwcWictYOszWOMADZkrQf07PZCbSRGVXUMPymiFP8yEyiAgDbd3UuL6OjWj+HaevpnAomOEuqYnPKAZJDhlQmeyvkXC3FY=; X-YMail-OSG: ILa3FFoVM1kGDFcY05mvh45xqqVpV1nCrBmlxxAu9Vu.Ccu7.hqJMZ_1rTZ4EIFPdN279tJjgqgSNl4Gpw5fjjSWob8p.k.x4b.OlzGBtnm6ddOak.ugYeLHJcDRsw-- Received: from [76.250.118.12] by web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:26:50 PDT Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:26:50 -0700 (PDT) From: robin dunn Subject: new year's tix on sale tomorrow To: babel-list, eternalcafe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <251402.53485.qm> Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ just noticed at the bowery ballroom site that tix for new year's weekend go on sale tomorrow at noon. am so psyched for these shows............ r __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 2 03:33:29 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2AXT4j013962 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 03:33:29 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA2AXTJa013961 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 03:33:29 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2AXRlI013951 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 03:33:28 -0700 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=Ci96PQy/DOUQmNG9FR4ThPwHbAIyCGeIBXqoP9Ky7XihxJ/pI6bxlMeeBc9kdEmT; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.27] (helo=mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Intq6-0003SK-BE for babel-list; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:33:22 -0400 Received: from 68.210.201.33 by webmail.atl.earthlink.net with HTTP; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:33:22 -0400 Message-ID: <13207263.1193999602342.JavaMail.root> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:33:22 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: "Douglas W. Corkhill" Reply-To: "Douglas W. Corkhill" To: babel-list Subject: Re: new year's tix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 1a787f6d8249ec5d9649176a89d694c0f43c108795ac450704033cb18e9fc30d0d0a6ddfb17b852b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.27 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ >just noticed at the bowery ballroom site that tix for >new year's weekend go on sale tomorrow at noon. Thank you very much for the heads up on this. Doug From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 2 04:24:52 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2BOqcp017211 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 04:24:52 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA2BOqa2017210 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 04:24:52 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-nyc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.109.6]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2BOoMD017205 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 04:24:51 -0700 Received: from [10.0.1.196] (cpe-69-200-83-102.nyc.res.rr.com [69.200.83.102]) by ms-smtp-02.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lA2BOmFO025098 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:24:48 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <200711020900.lA2901kO010143> References: <200711020900.lA2901kO010143> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <75EF2C2B-F58E-47E8-A0BA-84C246956799> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: ElChe Subject: Re: babel-digest V12 #235 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 07:24:46 -0400 To: babel-list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Yes, that's true, and please also note that the ticket prices are astronomical. $40 for the first two nights and $55 for the second????? I just looked on the bowery ballroom website and there is not another act booked there charging more than $20 for tickets. This is robbery. Nice way to reward the fans that have been coming to her all three of her New Years shows for 10 years when nobody else remembered who she was. On Nov 2, 2007, at 5:00 AM, babel-digest wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:26:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: robin dunn > Subject: new year's tix on sale tomorrow > > just noticed at the bowery ballroom site that tix for > new year's weekend go on sale tomorrow at noon. am so > psyched for these shows............ > > r From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 2 06:13:20 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2DDKtx023231 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:13:20 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA2DDK6g023230 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:13:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from bsmtp.bon.at (bsmtp.bon.at [213.33.87.14]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2DDI5A023220 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:13:19 -0700 Received: from zech3 (unknown [194.208.150.42]) by bsmtp.bon.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26792C400D; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:13:10 +0100 (CET) From: "Alice" To: "'ElChe'" , References: <200711020900.lA2901kO010143> <75EF2C2B-F58E-47E8-A0BA-84C246956799> Subject: AW: babel-digest V12 #235 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:13:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c81d52$1ffce3d0$0500a8c0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcgdRQjw0K0SuG3bTMmEJ+VartXpEgADDEJw In-Reply-To: <75EF2C2B-F58E-47E8-A0BA-84C246956799> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id lA2DDJ5A023226 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Considering the "normal" price of rock concerts these days, and the usual price of Patti's concerts, which is quite affordable, AND considering what New Year's Eve extravaganzas cost, I don't think these prices are at all unreasonable. And to imply that nobody remembered who she was... I simply have to disagree. I wish more than anything that I could get to NYC for the shows and I'd be more than happy to pay twice that! But I'll be here between my mountains in Austria as usual, and if they broadcast again on Sirius, get up again at 4 am to listen. Alice -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] Im Auftrag von ElChe Gesendet: Freitag, 2. November 2007 12:25 An: babel-list Betreff: Re: babel-digest V12 #235 Yes, that's true, and please also note that the ticket prices are astronomical. $40 for the first two nights and $55 for the second????? I just looked on the bowery ballroom website and there is not another act booked there charging more than $20 for tickets. This is robbery. Nice way to reward the fans that have been coming to her all three of her New Years shows for 10 years when nobody else remembered who she was. On Nov 2, 2007, at 5:00 AM, babel-digest wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:26:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: robin dunn > Subject: new year's tix on sale tomorrow > > just noticed at the bowery ballroom site that tix for > new year's weekend go on sale tomorrow at noon. am so > psyched for these shows............ > > r From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 2 09:58:48 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2GwmtP002487 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:58:48 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA2GwlvI002486 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:58:47 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web33906.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33906.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.184]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id lA2GwkId002478 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:58:46 -0700 Received: (qmail 97206 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2007 16:58:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=xwfigNOjog5BDs+phyqoZmtB+DjGgBjIilcAl01HCmrzt2YKY0WGBVM3Crw8vFo4h0qItQxw7LC6UOUeMEWCztSrBl3zov+OYC6dplMNCACdjnzImqNqojoihUE5yiKuKxYwz4WSsrq401S/fxZ+P+Nodrg2EoJzxqgJZGd6v2Y=; X-YMail-OSG: rDpwblQVM1lQLOFTOeZEVW8v1bKRw9V3IINtzbvwLSsYr0XKQqUvpbtUcNDn8QG1Ai_oEDWW4beCcs_tddlqFXJMref57W0XZXCSWM3kBSNhbmRnKrDakpz8SPDlrg-- Received: from [64.139.253.67] by web33906.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:58:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/814.06 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134.12 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: James Davidson Subject: Re: babel-digest V12 #235 To: ElChe , babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <784106.97136.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ The tickets are a bargain................3 nights of Patti in a row....pure heaven...............life is good.....................jd ----- Original Message ---- From: ElChe To: babel-list Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 4:24:46 AM Subject: Re: babel-digest V12 #235 Yes, that's true, and please also note that the ticket prices are astronomical. $40 for the first two nights and $55 for the second????? I just looked on the bowery ballroom website and there is not another act booked there charging more than $20 for tickets. This is robbery. Nice way to reward the fans that have been coming to her all three of her New Years shows for 10 years when nobody else remembered who she was. On Nov 2, 2007, at 5:00 AM, babel-digest wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:26:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: robin dunn > Subject: new year's tix on sale tomorrow > > just noticed at the bowery ballroom site that tix for > new year's weekend go on sale tomorrow at noon. am so > psyched for these shows............ > > r __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 2 11:52:35 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2IqZPQ010504 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:52:35 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA2IqYIm010503 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:52:34 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2IqXkY010496 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:52:33 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k20so874707rvb for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:52:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=fygEAmCxftnjcBA9ezI19pGnIAX42goMtxUEijBhyvQ=; b=Lslh3lgqUITjRhYrtImR2BgiACJ2KqfVIvGlrKJNoCWwq7q36VpQknAWhm11ddU2h1Vfsut3u1NXgvIqqcq9Xjjz/CfYOcKD7Cx7UvAcm+58OC2gKwFJfLx/zglSPKGKaIMIPEjWt7bcmdgx6B9b6f/P3aXzp+HrD5qP/2xn9pA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=A36DJ0fFLZRJCGgrJTdHcf6a9lwe9qvarfRzvacuTa+jZfh8MmD+SBCoh5eTUfL7ohJY+gkoa1cX2h8yT2U6NV15/6OvI92hlNqmqWObgG3nNMtgZDvnd5Vl/Q2uvFCjCl/Nb6klFDIqQunjZu+lNzw7kQTplMYletk6Xou0xpw= Received: by 10.141.53.1 with SMTP id f1mr1077018rvk.1194029552068; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.193.9 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 18:52:31 +0000 From: "Andrew McVicar" To: babel-list Subject: Re: babel-digest V12 #235 In-Reply-To: <784106.97136.qm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <784106.97136.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I agree - an absolute bargain! I saw Patti at the Shepherd's Bush Empire for # 27.50 two weeks ago and I can honestly say it was one of the three best shows I've seen ever. And I returned from London to my home town of Oxford to find out Patti was playing the next night three minutes from my house! Two amazing nights - absolutely stunning. And if Patti ever wants another career, I think she could make it as a stand up comic! Would love to get ahold of live recordings of this tour - is there any going around? On 02/11/2007, James Davidson wrote: > > The tickets are a bargain................3 nights of Patti in a > row....pure > heaven...............life is good.....................jd > > > ----- Original > Message ---- > From: ElChe > To: babel-list > Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 4:24:46 AM > Subject: Re: babel-digest V12 #235 > Yes, that's true, and please also note that the ticket prices are > astronomical. > $40 for the first two nights and $55 for the second????? I just > looked on the bowery > ballroom website and there is not another act booked > there charging more > than $20 for tickets. This is robbery. Nice way to reward > the fans that > have been coming to her all three of her New Years shows for 10 > years > when nobody else remembered > who she was. > > On Nov 2, 2007, at 5:00 AM, > babel-digest wrote: > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:26:50 -0700 (PDT) > > From: robin dunn > > > Subject: new year's tix on sale tomorrow > > > > just > noticed at the bowery ballroom site that tix for > > new year's weekend go on > sale tomorrow at noon. am so > > psyched for these shows............ > > > > r > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of > spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 2 12:11:45 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2JBj7K011581 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:11:45 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA2JBjrl011580 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:11:45 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA2JBgFI011572 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:11:43 -0700 Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Io1vi-0003Gf-Fo; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:11:42 +0000 Received: from [82.39.254.144] (helo=Nelson) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Io1vY-0006lH-Mc; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:11:32 +0000 Message-ID: <00df01c81d84$2ca616b0$90fe2752> From: "Carol Green" To: "Andrew McVicar" , References: <784106.97136.qm> Subject: Re: babel-digest V12 #235 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:11:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I agree also - Bowery ticket prices are about the same as the Patti tix for Oxford and Cambridge, and actually cheaper than the London tickets. Springsteen tickets for the O2 in London are #57.50 face value (not that I'm going there), compare that to #27.50 for Patti at Shepherd's Bush. carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew McVicar" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 6:52 PM Subject: Re: babel-digest V12 #235 >I agree - an absolute bargain! I saw Patti at the Shepherd's Bush Empire >for > # 27.50 two weeks ago and I can honestly say it was one of the three best > shows I've seen ever. And I returned from London to my home town of Oxford > to find out Patti was playing the next night three minutes from my house! > Two amazing nights - absolutely stunning. And if Patti ever wants another > career, I think she could make it as a stand up comic! > > Would love to get ahold of live recordings of this tour - is there any > going > around? > > > On 02/11/2007, James Davidson wrote: >> >> The tickets are a bargain................3 nights of Patti in a >> row....pure >> heaven...............life is good.....................jd >> >> >> ----- Original >> Message ---- >> From: ElChe >> To: babel-list >> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 4:24:46 AM >> Subject: Re: babel-digest V12 #235 >> Yes, that's true, and please also note that the ticket prices are >> astronomical. >> $40 for the first two nights and $55 for the second????? I just >> looked on the bowery >> ballroom website and there is not another act booked >> there charging more >> than $20 for tickets. This is robbery. Nice way to reward >> the fans that >> have been coming to her all three of her New Years shows for 10 >> years >> when nobody else remembered >> who she was. >> >> On Nov 2, 2007, at 5:00 AM, >> babel-digest wrote: >> >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > >> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:26:50 -0700 (PDT) >> > From: robin dunn >> >> > Subject: new year's tix on sale tomorrow >> > >> > just >> noticed at the bowery ballroom site that tix for >> > new year's weekend go on >> sale tomorrow at noon. am so >> > psyched for these shows............ >> > >> > r >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of >> spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Sat Nov 3 16:03:34 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA3N3YmO025141 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:03:34 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA3N3YKU025140 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:03:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:03:34 -0700 Message-Id: <200711032303.lA3N3YKU025140> X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f From: "Andrew F Wilson" To: Babel-list Subject: Patti Smith on music, politics... and dental hygiene Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Patti Smith on music, politics... and dental hygiene By Charlotte Chambers Camden New Journal, 25 October 2007 Grooves travelled to the Jack Daniels birthday bash in Tennessee for an intimate chat with the punk rock legend. Legendary punk rocker Patti Smith spoke to Grooves before her gig at the Birthday JD Set, held at the Jack Daniels whiskey distillery in Lynchberg, Tennessee. During that hour, she covered all bases: the importance of dental care; how she was signed after Bob Dylan went to watch her first gig; the evil of globalisation. (She took her sunglasses off after five minutes.) What made you want to take part in the JD set? Well I thought it was an unusual request and I was really surprised that they asked me, I thought why would they want me to come to this? But I thought it would be great for my son Jackson, a really great guitar player, so I more took it to have the pleasure of Jackson coming here. And when I've done political rallies, I've played for 40 people in the middle of nowhere. Why did you do the covers album? I always wanted to do one. In the 70s, I didn't start singing, I'm not a musician, I'm not a real singer or anything. When I sang Horses, I had no track record of being a singer, I didn't want to have a band, I grew up in a rural area where I never even saw a guitar for real, and girls really didn't play guitars. Weren't you a music journalist? I saw the trajectory of music, Little Richard, Bob Dylan, The Animals, and then the 60s, all the great music and I really felt empowered being a skinny, pimply weirdo from New Jersey. I loved rock'n'roll so much, and then in the early 70s it felt like it was going downhill, politically and sexually, it was losing its strength, it was getting glamorous and snotty, so I started writing and performing stuff. Just hoping to agitate things. To remind people where rock'n'roll was supposed to be. It was supposed to be grassroots and speak for the people. In 73. But what really happened was Bob Dylan came to see me in some shitty little club and he never did stuff like that. For me, he was like Bob Dylan, you know, I loved him. It got so much media attention that I got signed. His endorsement got me signed. What health would you say rock'n'roll's in now? It's in an interesting pivotal state, I don't think it's going down or up, it's like imagine if it's like a war, the people are gathering their forces, they're marshalling their energies so I find it interesting. I feel like the new guard are experimenting and becoming more independent. Record companies are in trouble and scrambling. Its such a mess that its not owned by anybody. Its being redefined. It's not a business, it's not supposed to be a business. It's a voice. It's like it's rebirthing itself. I'd rather that than corporatised. Where do you see your role in all of it? Are you still shaking things up? I don't know. I never even expected to be alive at 60 but since I'm here, I'm really happy, I hope I'm alive another 40 years. At this point, I know I'm worse at what I do best. I like to perform, and I like to communicate, and I think I can be trusted because I don't have any ulterior motives. I like to make people laugh, I get angry about things. I want to inspire people to get politically involved. But I'd also like to inspire people to take good care of their teeth, don't eat a lot of salt or fast food. I'm a mum, I can be very irreverent, I can still put my foot through an amp but I can help you with first aid or nutrition. I don't have an image or agenda, I've been here a long time and sadly have outlived a lot of my friends, so if I can be of help.. I will. What's making you angry at the moment? The illegal and immoral occupation of Iraq by the Bush administration is the number one thing. All of the exploitation of young people by corporations, and how young people are being moulded to be the consumers of the future. This constant advertising that we have everywhere is becoming people's education. How does that sit with a corporate gig like this? Well it's corporate, it's alcohol. I thought about this. I'm very sensitive about alcohol issues, I've got friends who've died from alcoholism, but I'm not anti alcohol, I just feel people have to be educated that too much alcohol.. that alcohol's a bad drug. But alcohol itself is not an evil thing. I always search myself when I agree to do these things but I don't perceive it as evil, if it was a pharmaceutical company I wouldn't be here, because they're evil. But in the end.. my relatives drink Jack Daniel's, I wanted my son to meet these musicians, so I was thinking about it in a different way. But truthfully I didn't agonise too much over it. But I have turned down the most money I've every been offered in my whole life because a pharmaceutical company wanted to use one of my songs. It was a lot of money  I could have bought those houses. But we live in a modern world, I'm not a purist. I just try and adapt. Do you think musicians have a responsibility to speak out on issues of human rights? I believe everybody has a responsibility, everybody has to. But artists are in a unique position to inspire. They can't make huge change but they can inspire people to make change, I wish more artists would come forward. But the Iraq war, trying to get people to speak out on that.. and the few people that did, we were marginalised. It wasn't reported in the media. I came to Europe to march. Couldn't march in America. I know they were afraid because of what happened on September 11th, but still, you can't forget who you are. Why is liberal such a dirty word? The left have been extremely weak. September 11th is one of the worst things to have happened to my country, and not because of the tragedy  yes it's a tragedy, but when you look at the tsunami that killed 100,00 people... a lot of it wasn't the amount of people that died, it was the American pride. It's as if we have this magic shield around us and all of Europe can experience tragedies  but not us. It seemed to, it struck a pall over the country and the Bush administration crafted everything, so that anything that you said that opposed what he said was unpatriotic. People got very weak, they completely lost what patriotism is  what they really meant was you are not nationalistic. The Bush administration are nationalistic and imperialistic, and most of the American people do not have the sophistication to understand the difference. The word should be humanist. Does it feel like a success to be on the bill with diverse and strong female artists? I'm really happy about it, I'm happy to be included. I think it's very interesting to have this idea, of three diverse females with a male band of session musicians, we're all different mix, we're all different ages and different sensibilities. I think it's going to be a successful experiment. What new acts do you like? I don't know anybody or anything that's going on! The way I find out what's going on is through MySpace. My daughter made me a MySpace and I felt like an intruder: 'They don't want me on the MySpace thing, that's like a secret club'. And then 200,000 people came to visit. For a person like me, who sells 40,000 records in America, to see 200,000 people listening to your music is really exciting. I like Wagner, Maria Callis, Coldtrain and Jimmy Hendrix. I'm not really up on who's doing what. Do you think when it becomes so egalitarian it's difficult to pick out what you like? That's how things are right now. In the 60s we had all of these gods of the period, you look at the Rennaisance and you have Michaelangelo and Da Vinci, well every generation doesn't necessarily put out these olympian people. I think we're just in a cycle where it is more equalised. But people will rise, someone who will be extra special, have extra charisma or a special gift and they will capture a wider imagination. Right now the playing field is more people orientated. Maybe not as mystically exciting, but I think for the individual it's a good thing. Everyone is learning they can express themselves, yes I can vote, yes I can make change, I can do something for the environment. I think of it like in sports. I always hated sports but my late husband, who is a great musician and a genius, but he also loved sports and he forced me to learn about sports including golf. He was from Detroit and he loved his basketball team, the Detroit Pistons. This was in the 80s, which was a period we'd had so many great players, like Michael Jordan, he was like the god of basketball. But then you had the Pistons, who had no god. You had a bunch of scrappy players, each with their own personality. You had Vinnie, the microwave, who was like 5'8 and he's a basketball player. They had Buddha, who was tall and skinny and very meditative, who would just quietly let everybody else do their thing and then all of a sudden he would just 'poomf', put it in. And then you had Joe Dumar, the good guy, the work horse, and you had Rodman, the worm, who was one of the great defence players. But none of them were iconic. They were just all of these guys, and they wound up winning three championships, because they were such a collective force. Some might have the great one-god guy that sold all of the t-shirts, and all of America was wearing their sneakers, and nobody gave as much thought to the Pistons. But the Pistons won three championships. And I thought there's something so metaphorically beautiful about this, and it was out of this atmosphere that my husband and I wrote the song, People Have The Power, really secretly inspired by the Detroit Pistons. I like to think that right now, music is in its Detroit Pistons place. We'll see what happens. Do you still watch basketball? No. My husband before he passed away said to me, because he loved golf, he was seeing a decline in golf, in the way that almost we're seeing a decline in music, because all the players were getting too old and it seemed like the playing field was getting too wide, and too cluttered and it was getting boring.. And right before my husband passed away he said 'Tricia we need a young black golfer with a the ability of Jack Nicklaus' and he said I predict a young black golfer is going to come and change the whole course of golf history, and then he said, 'and you're going to have something to do with it.' So anyway, Fred passed away and never got to see the rise of Tiger Woods, who of course, did change the course of golf history. But I always wondered what I had to do with Tiger Woods, until about two weeks ago. I happened to see in some newspaper, a little article about him and his birthday, December 30, the same as mine. So my husband was never wrong. While we're looking at my camera I will also give you my dental pitch. As a parting gift, my dental pitch is, I'm telling you something I was never told because my generation being born right after world war two, dental care was not a big issue and my generation have terrible teeth. I'm telling you, please, save your money, and get your teeth professionally cleaned once twice a year if you can afford it, because when you get older its such a pain in the ass, its so important. I never had the money, but it wasn't even the money, I just didn't know. It will save you a lot of heartache. You wouldn't think that teeth things were such a big deal but it is such a big pain in the ass. I worry about people, I do, I want people to come to our concerts and have fun, I want people to have as much information about things, even a little thing because if the revolution comes, you don't want to be with a nerve exposed in your tooth that's so painful that you aren't ready for the revolution. You played at the closing of CBGBs last year. Did that feel like the end of an era or is it just a place? CBGBs, to me, is symptomatic of one of the tragedies of our modern world and that is the affluence and the corporatisation of our cities and advertising, money, condominiums... I'm sure you see it where you all live. NY city was always such a great city when I was younger, because it was so cheap, a little dangerous, not so dangerous, but you could come, get a little bookstore job, live in the east village, meet a whole bunch of other artists and poets, create a scene and exchange ideas, and get political ideas and poetic ideas and feel like you were doing something. Now its become so affluent and expensive, and they just have come in really, at such a speed, I can't believe it, right in front of my eyes, and taken over all our neighbourhoods. Not just some of them, all of them. And these developers and these really evil people like Donald Trump, who's like another evil king, and just buy up all these areas and make condos so expensive so that none of us can live there. So yes, CBGBs, I feel emotionally sad about losing it physically, but its not just CBGBs, its the whole thing. And it's not just the whole thing in NY, its everywhere I go this is happening, everywhere in the world I go. I was just in Istanbul and kids are saying yeah this is a cool area but the developers are moving in. It doesn't matter where it is, it's the globalisation of our world. To me globalisation should mean everyone can afford health care, Aids drugs are available to everyone, that no one is starving. That should be globalisation. But globalisation is not that at all. It's becoming that the world is just one big playground for people with new affluence, and a lot of this affluence is made up, because it's built on credit cards. It's not really built on a real working-class sensibility where people work hard, it's more to do with how clever an entrepreneurial you are. And I think that this. I can live with the equal exploration of the arts, but this equalisation of the world for the middle classes, the upper middle classes, its such a class conscious thing. In NY city, I don't have any place left to play any more, all my band have moved out except for me. Every single place we've ever practised, they're finished, they're condos, galleries, I don't know where we're going... Me myself I'm looking for somewhere to move because it doesn't represent me any more. I'm giving up. It doesn't matter any more. I could hold out on my little street, but for what reason? I have no community. I don't want to be around these people who are basically.. I mean we never had anything, nowadays they've got these stretch hummers and they're dressed up with cell phones hanging out of their ears C'mon  you know, do something, do something else. You hit a sensitive nerve, but despite all of that, and despite the fact that to me, our world seems really fucked up at the moment, and my country seems in a really bad place, spiritually, socially, economically, I still believe, and I tell my kids this, we get one life, one specific life, and we have the right to navigate the dark sea of the world as well as we can, and be happy and have some kind of joy and I don't think that we need to be depressed, angry and feel defeated every day. I know things are very bad, I know the Bush administration in some ways has defeated me, but I'm not going to crawl into hole, I'm going to be myself and I'll be a living thorn, and I'll poke him and poke him and poke him until hopefully he bleeds. And maybe that's all I can do, but in the meantime I'm also gonna be happy, and enjoy my kids, enjoy arts, enjoy nature, enjoy this moment. So for a person who's maybe the oldest in this room, I'm just telling you that life, even in its worst, is worth living. There's always something wonderful to wake up to everyday. It really is worth it. I have seen the bottom, and even seeing the bottom, I still wanted to come back up. Its great to be alive. I don't believe that we all deserve to have a car, or all the different things that are dangled in front of us, but I do believe we have the right to be happy. So even if you feel guilty, don't be afraid to be happy. [end] From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 4 00:09:12 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA479CJM008704 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 00:09:12 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA479CEx008703 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 00:09:12 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.227]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id lA479ACR008697 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 00:09:11 -0700 Received: (qmail 23690 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2007 07:09:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=s76wW6QTTcCyCZTHQAvPhbGt0Irm97QVa7doDxZKYqfZ9caiL5mL6erLr+ifXwdTuF+lO42/YSRmUgRz1muKOXb6GX07M3qt2Lst0ptGTAf+lL4DGc4Nvq64b9Sjys1rOg9h++VhN9Rd+FwEa4TFHzax59XRYk+8nfFKekMqFpU=; X-YMail-OSG: C9XAX8oVM1nyBuC.EjruRcelCyMQVVh5kK7XspA8fC8NmmFy42hyWzeUYKVvE4foUcRtPZnt9iWwHOC6Q.RG17IPCfMoumxcMrqIACuIq06BmAu912o- Received: from [67.101.150.244] by web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:09:06 PDT Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 00:09:06 -0700 (PDT) From: L French Subject: Patti Smith on Politics in the Camden New Journal, UK!! To: Babel- List In-Reply-To: <200711032303.lA3N3YKU025140> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <133316.21506.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Thanks Andrew for posting this great Patti interview! I must admit I was a bit surpised, since I thought Camden was a NJ paper from Patti's home state of New Jersey. But as a read the interview, it became quite apparent no American newspaper would have asked Patti these kind of questions! Certainly no paper in Tennessee. But, ain't it strange that many of America's great artists, like Edgar Allan Poe, Orson Welles and Patti Smith have to get recognition in the European press before they are considered great in their country of origin? I guess it's because they speak the truth, against whatever political wind is blowing at the time... Thus, in ten or twenty years Patti Smith will be considered a great "American Artist," while President Bush will be seen (along with Richard Nixon), as the most corrupt President in the history of the USA, who allowed the planet Earth to succumb to the threat of the "non-existent" threat of Global Warming. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 4 10:21:32 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA4ILV29011388 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:21:31 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA4ILVtI011387 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:21:31 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA4ILTkK011380 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:21:30 -0800 Received: from [172.23.170.141] (helo=anti-virus02-08) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Iok6C-0000TE-Ia for babel-list; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:21:28 +0000 Received: from [82.39.254.144] (helo=Nelson) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Iok6B-0002od-DS for babel-list; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:21:27 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c81f0f$83a665f0$90fe2752> From: "Carol Green" To: Subject: Patti at The Junction, Cambridge Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:21:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ A few photos and someone's review of Patti at The Junction, Cambridge. http://tinyurl.com/ysyxhq I couldn't resist leaving them a comment. carol From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 4 12:37:21 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA4KbL6n022994 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:37:21 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA4KbLP4022993 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:37:21 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA4KbHfd022945 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:37:20 -0800 Received: from Lloyd5009 by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id m.c5e.22026bf4 (39331) for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:36:57 -0500 (EST) From: Lloyd5009 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:36:57 EST Subject: Re: Patti at The Junction, Cambridge To: Babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5377 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Yikes. 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L. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 4 13:23:09 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA4LN9oW029239 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:23:09 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA4LN9eV029238 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:23:09 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA4LN75e029233 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:23:08 -0800 Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Iomw1-0007kb-GI; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:23:09 +0000 Received: from [82.39.254.144] (helo=Nelson) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Iomvw-0005vh-SU; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:23:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c81f28$dff6de70$90fe2752> From: "Carol Green" To: , References: Subject: Re: Patti at The Junction, Cambridge Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:22:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Vicious? Did I hit him with a flower? carol ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:36 PM Subject: Re: Patti at The Junction, Cambridge > Yikes. Y so vicious? > L. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 4 18:36:15 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA52aDwF007380 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:36:15 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA52aDlp007378 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:36:13 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.230]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id lA52aCSt007373 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:36:12 -0800 Received: (qmail 16866 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2007 02:36:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=wORXV2q28Wb2UzqWc9ja4rR7e9jkEG1DMVtWUXnQACcNb3ChXJwUeEUxpB1TwEr7Jk66pkMDB71l8syAh12KRRuGjvoMlKPieKmHuKHf6Q+S8Md3a5ttdAAQfV7I+stLvucLsaW1f0ObrCXTxKka/Q/Ee/r7BiAgoy3ckAVDAKc=; X-YMail-OSG: NccwnnAVM1kVx3JaDFqc8xnef.cMx_A9DFTzd1_BXC7gUfIsX_BCrK1Rp5FYbDCm8GaTMJk5tWvcDbmUTKKotkJQ4Ul3rcAPK_KcsHXbnoxfBZnKEA4- Received: from [67.101.150.244] by web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:36:07 PST Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:36:07 -0800 (PST) From: L French Subject: Four Years in the Sky To: Babel- List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <596080.16861.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Patti has posted a short and beautiful memorial poem on her site today, for Robert Mapplethorpe on his 61st birthday... _________________ Robert Mapplethorpe November 4, 1946  March 9, 1989 _________________ As an artist he will sing of the dizzying extremes. The evil horn, the wing. For the sake of wing there is shoulder. For symmetry there is blade. He will dwell in the mystery of a vein, the hip of unrest. In his solitude he will plunge within and reemerge the nymph, the slave, the fabulous hood. He will increase the shining neck, the violent charade. His truth his only motive, he will sing. But who will sing of him? For he, his own messenger, is gone. He has leapt through the orphic glass to wander eternally in search of perfection. His blue ankles tattooed with stars. _________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 4 21:30:24 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA55UNTg013308 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:30:24 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA55UNRJ013307 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:30:23 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA55UM19013302 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:30:22 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k20so1545970rvb for ; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:30:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=8xvU3znCbbyi1wXXyWHGtDvwKoCLPwDFLfZmmapRCgg=; b=HChUQ/56ExzMxtuZ6ZDJV9sk9X7I90DA8RCjUbweXZABEnqQXP1HP20pS5ExG8Gh4qMkMW8ZiEpPh7hGjcw+l9kBbFIglJRqZl4OK+ouTp8uw3ZFOGPKnz6Egc7EJjoBOJ3VtXdHQ2tr1hvEid1cyDb4cbHn3tLw0HI02cStrEo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qUO0xoTunNu+B0Hoj8zpUY36V4DmDqBB81IUIJBHMDiIDaQITBA10Zz5ZlKlvo+OY6jrhprbkLZSXR28tB7TP7oDi7GzeL2ASjcfNsYcYOI+Im9kqCh0zL+nyAFnz2LoYMT0OPc/ANUIiMV3IFXZhQNmGK95ehAUCdfoD3yIP1g= Received: by 10.140.163.3 with SMTP id l3mr2158669rve.1194240623427; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:30:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.87.17 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:30:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:30:23 -0800 From: "Page Rox" To: "L French" Subject: Re: Patti Smith on Politics in the Camden New Journal, UK!! Cc: "Babel- List" In-Reply-To: <133316.21506.qm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <200711032303.lA3N3YKU025140> <133316.21506.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Indeed. And what a wonderful, all-over-the-place interview you handed us! Posted it to my own group. Everyone needs to see this--thank you, Andrew--as usual! :-D Its been a long time since we heard so candidly from Patti (and her dental rap is precious, and soo true) and I had a hearty "RIGHT ON" ringin' in my head every sentence, which is a rare thing, reading in these times. Again, thankyou, Andrew! Fist in the air!! (And the other fist brushing my teeth...arrhghghgh) XO-Glenna On 11/3/07, L French wrote: > > Thanks Andrew for posting this great Patti interview! > > I must admit I was a bit surpised, since I thought Camden was a NJ paper > from Patti's home state of New Jersey. But as a read the interview, it > became quite apparent no American newspaper would have asked Patti these > kind of questions! Certainly no paper in Tennessee. > > But, ain't it strange that many of America's great artists, like Edgar > Allan Poe, Orson Welles and Patti Smith have to get recognition in the > European press before they are considered great in their country of origin? > > I guess it's because they speak the truth, against whatever political wind > is blowing at the time... > > Thus, in ten or twenty years Patti Smith will be considered a great > "American Artist," while President Bush will be seen (along with Richard > Nixon), as the most corrupt President in the history of the USA, who allowed > the planet Earth to succumb to the threat of the "non-existent" threat of > Global Warming. > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 7 13:34:37 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA7LYaPg018433 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:34:37 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA7LYaEx018432 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:34:36 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA7LYXP6018425 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:34:34 -0800 Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1IpsXg-0004TC-5Q for babel-list; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:34:32 +0000 Received: from [82.39.254.144] (helo=Nelson) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1IpsXf-0006Co-Kd for babel-list; Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:34:31 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c82185$f707a720$90fe2752> From: "Carol Green" To: Subject: Tribute to Pier Paolo Pasolini Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:34:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Major Tribute to Controversial Italian Filmmaker and Writer Pier Paolo Pasolini November 26 through December 4, 2007 Pier Paolo Pasolinis murder at the age of 53 transformed an already controversial and extraordinary Italian artist into an iconic figure of the Twentieth Century. Beginning on November 26, 2007 and continuing through December 4, 2007, a tribute to Pasolini, entitled, Pier Paolo Pasolini  Poet of Ashes, will be presented at venues in New York City.... The tribute culminates with a round table discussion, The Last Questions of Pasolini  Le Ultime Domande di Pasolini, held at New York Universitys Casa Italiana Zerilli Marimr (Nov. 29). The event, which is realized with Fondazione Musica per Roma and Fondazione Cinema per Roma, features the musical artist Patti Smith. http://tinyurl.com/35tgs8 From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 9 02:25:24 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA9APOxM006950 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 02:25:24 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lA9APOSL006948 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 02:25:24 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lA9APMUH006940 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 02:25:23 -0800 Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1IqR3B-00038J-S5 for babel-list; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:25:21 +0000 Received: from [82.39.254.144] (helo=Nelson) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1IqR39-0003Az-Mh for babel-list; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:25:19 +0000 Message-ID: <007301c822ba$ce4ccbe0$90fe2752> From: "Carol Green" To: Subject: Rimbaud & Verlaine's London home to become literary centre Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:25:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Strictly speaking this is a 'no Patti content' post but I thought it would be of interest to you all... Poets legacy will live on at their old home THE Camden Town home of French 19th century poets Arthur Rimbaud and Paul Verlaine has been sold by a property developer and is destined to become a literary centre honouring their cultural legacy. Rimbaud and Verlaine, two of Frances most admired romantic poets, eloped to the house in Royal College Street in 1873 when it became common knowledge in Paris that they were having a gay affair. They produced some of the most respected works of French literature while living at the address. The house, previously owned by the Royal Veterinary College, was placed on the English Heritage At-Risk register in 2002. Property developer Michael Ogun bought the house in an auction last year. He said then that he planned to modernise the terrace of three houses and then sell them on in about five years time. But he has now sold the poets former home, No 8, to retired civil servant Michael Corby. He has employed a designer and architect to draw up plans for the 1828 building, with a brief that includes performance spaces for poetry events. Mr Corby said: I will admit I do not particularly care for Verlaine but think Rimbaud is absolutely wonderful. My first objective is to get the place restored and then use this as a base to promote their works. He added: Luckily there are a number of original features still there I plan to restore. When work on the house is finished, he hopes to bring in arts bodies to help manage the centre. Literary charity Poets in the City is in talks with Mr Corby about a possible role. Poets in the City executive Graham Henderson said: We hope to produce a plan to secure its future as some kind of cultural centre which will put poetry in the forefront of events at the property. Former Labour councillor Gerry Harrison, who has campaigned to save the poets home, wants Camden Council to back Mr Corbys plans. He said: Camdens planners wrote me a letter in 2005 which says that the council will look favourably on any change of use from residential at this address in view of its historic and literary connections. http://www.thecnj.co.uk/camden/2007/110807/news110807_17.html From babel-list-owner Sat Nov 10 08:39:44 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAAGdi9H022392 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:39:44 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAAGdilf022391 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:39:44 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAAGdcrx022383 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:39:43 -0800 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so284791pyi for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:39:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=gtRNYAyFmVzv0pCIaCaeKun8XXurj7ormbvPay0Fahc=; b=KzzPxZn1RPA5SJSKkt10mmFEXR2+U7Yy+eyP8lhi1QoKbz0Yfz/XmaT8Ia6xncZZv0cd3ZA8B+ihJe3ccYHNzZ/t5Zqf6vJB14FcOhp4/8oKpVHKOpCvA/iUnTlhrY52Yu8B3e3q7dx0ijjQKT3pQGlg8LRTrEWwW8UZRFJRDUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=TqGfMfj4NggWHV315Z+hUPGbuG9abxYbJvBWNYr/L0by+pdnNOPtN2NKalcKBLDJmT9ZG5ZlGjcVjfNAmVxSo/cg/2YJ0wY/qchC0FGeFR4e67hzeb7PjnN3t0a+bsucpR20lz3UhjE/jsJY+mK0KYmA8Rn/XKF1hGhNKH1/2GM= Received: by 10.64.243.10 with SMTP id q10mr9827838qbh.1194712778492; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:39:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.241.12 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 08:39:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <88459f0a0711100839r6bd1a807k68edd9b80ae3df9> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:39:38 +1000 From: Vlad <88vlad> To: babel-list Subject: Live aux vieilles charrues 2004 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Hi everybody! I'm looking for "Trampin'... Live aux vieilles charrues 2004" by Patti Smith and Her Band. Vlad. Russia. From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 11 13:29:13 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lABLTDkh032201 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:29:13 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lABLTDZX032200 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:29:13 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lABLTBio032193 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:29:12 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=LVMteqjTXPRAOpcla5V2beQ0iswgW/AppFrX1UAW8VvtVZ7aqtMNKRbJGG4H5Rte; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.32] (helo=elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IrKMd-0005kH-OC for babel-list; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:29:07 -0500 Received: from 209.162.16.102 by webmail.pas.earthlink.net with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:29:07 -0500 Message-ID: <4315810.1194816547589.JavaMail.root> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:29:07 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Keith Reply-To: Keith To: babel-list Subject: Live aux vieilles charrues 2004 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 714f392c8724831074bf435c0eb9d478cd9d7aa2e62318708e7610918a50e4221f97a470ac758102350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.32 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:39:38 +1000 >From: Vlad <88vlad> >Subject: Live aux vieilles charrues 2004 > >Hi everybody! >I'm looking for "Trampin'... Live aux vieilles charrues 2004" by Patti Smith >and Her Band. >Vlad. Russia. >------------------------------ I ordered mine through the French version of amazon.com. You might want to check there to see if it's still for sale or perhaps ebay. Keith From babel-list-owner Sun Nov 11 15:10:49 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lABNAn66002348 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:10:49 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lABNAnfR002347 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:10:49 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lABNAl5L002339 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:10:48 -0800 Received: from BRAENFAMILYPC ([76.168.153.100]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20071111231041.GCQZ26270.mta11.adelphia.net>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:10:41 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c824b8$13aa00f0$6600a8c0> From: "PB&M" To: "Babelogue" , References: <848458.56311.qm> Subject: Re: [eternalcafe] Signed shirt from shepherds bush gig for sale Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:10:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Or offer it to the list(s) for what you paid for it. Maybe you could have a contest and whoever gives you the best story about why they'd like to have it could be the winner. I don't think that the purpose of eternal Cafe and Babelist is to provide a money making marketplace for sellers. Just my two cents. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: carol green To: eternalcafe Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [eternalcafe] Signed shirt from shepherds bush gig for sale Why not keep it and frame it?! ----- Original Message ---- From: nobody_wierd_like_me2001 To: eternalcafe Sent: Sunday, 11 November, 2007 5:00:50 PM Subject: [eternalcafe] Signed shirt from shepherds bush gig for sale Hi guys - Managed to get the wrong size shirt in all the comotion at the end of the concert in shepherds bush last month, am putting it on ebay if anyone wants a late souvenier! http://cgi.ebay. co.uk/ws/ eBayISAPI. dll?ViewItem& rd=1&item= 140176946337& ssPageName= STRK:MESE: IT&ih=004 Cheers __________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! 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Small Business Articles, tools, forms, and more. . __,_._,___ From babel-list-owner Mon Nov 12 10:17:09 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lACIH8Hp010577 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:09 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lACIH8Xi010576 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:08 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lACIH4FZ010547 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:06 -0800 Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1IrdqJ-0005Xa-61; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:17:03 +0000 Received: from [82.39.254.144] (helo=Nelson) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1IrdqE-0004ur-Vz; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:16:59 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01c82558$30cc1510$90fe2752> From: "Carol Green" To: "PB&M" , "Babelogue" , References: <848458.56311.qm> <000b01c824b8$13aa00f0$6600a8c0> Subject: Re: [eternalcafe] Signed shirt from shepherds bush gig for sale Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:16:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Well said, Phil! I actually clicked through to the ebay link out of curiosity and noticed they've been selling a number of other teeshirts, I couldn't help but wonder if they had all been the WRONG SIZE as well? They don't appear to be very lucky with their clothes shopping! LOL! carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "PB&M" To: "Babelogue" ; Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [eternalcafe] Signed shirt from shepherds bush gig for sale > Or offer it to the list(s) for what you paid for it. Maybe you could have > a > contest and whoever gives you the best story about why they'd like to have > it > could be the winner. I don't think that the purpose of eternal Cafe and > Babelist is to provide a money making marketplace for sellers. Just my two > cents. > > Phil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: carol green > To: eternalcafe > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:46 PM > Subject: Re: [eternalcafe] Signed shirt from shepherds bush gig for sale > > > Why not keep it and frame it?! > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: nobody_wierd_like_me2001 > To: eternalcafe > Sent: Sunday, 11 November, 2007 5:00:50 PM > Subject: [eternalcafe] Signed shirt from shepherds bush gig for sale > > Hi guys - Managed to get the wrong size shirt in all the comotion at > the end of the concert in shepherds bush last month, am putting it on > ebay if anyone wants a late souvenier! > > http://cgi.ebay. co.uk/ws/ eBayISAPI. dll?ViewItem& rd=1&item= > 140176946337& > ssPageName= STRK:MESE: IT&ih=004 > > Cheers > > __________________________________________________________ > Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! 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Small Business > > Articles, tools, > > forms, and more. > . > __,_._,___ From babel-list-owner Mon Nov 12 21:03:11 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAD53BC7027302 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:03:11 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAD53BVn027301 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:03:11 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAD535hH027291 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:03:05 -0800 Received: from Aphinar by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id m.d36.18b3a667 (39952) for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:02:59 -0500 (EST) From: Aphinar Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:02:59 EST Subject: re: [eternalcafe] Signed shirt from shepherds bush gig for sale To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5377 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ When a fellow says, "It hain't the money, but th' principle o' the thing," it's th' money. -- Kin Hubbard, 1926 Jay Dillon Jay Dillon Rare Books + Manuscripts, LLC http://www.jaydillon.com Spicialistes de Rimbaud et rimbaldiana 45 Ocean Avenue 3C Monmouth Beach, New Jersey 07750 USA +732 728 1115 In a message dated 2007-11-11 6:12:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, braeniac writes: Or offer it to the list(s) for what you paid for it. Maybe you could have a contest and whoever gives you the best story about why they'd like to have it could be the winner. I don't think that the purpose of eternal Cafe and Babelist is to provide a money making marketplace for sellers. Just my two cents. Phil ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Mon Nov 12 22:41:32 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAD6fW2F030184 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:41:32 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAD6fWpV030183 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:41:32 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtp124.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com (smtp124.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.96.97]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id lAD6fScr030174 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:41:30 -0800 Received: (qmail 38672 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 06:41:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=CVFZBTzmhrAOx3I8eZsVuVbMTCY4g6jZtlCsNk4ZiMGkc58n4BtXFjzSLUHjda8FeMG343aJ6SLiJo5AHBjm9aTBFtVJW+Y6SV/p194XlHRPy63dvZs9IxHWxEWSdUWd5l5tk1qJzH8moEuSfUQwK7AIf9qNVCLzW7yK8Vy2JzU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO GodsComic) (godscomic@69.105.111.117 with login) by smtp124.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 06:41:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: EcNhj34VM1ne0jBPmfW_NZaiZpHLRMNm8pU8zSNMJ9.VunnJYKQcqrGKqHlaKOAE9v.heAlZ1A-- Message-ID: <01d201c825c0$1f741930$756f6945> From: "Dean Micheli" To: Subject: Patti Smith 1976 NYE Weed Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:40:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Thanks to Jeff,I got a couple copies of this weed to anyone who will keep the weed growing in this group. Email me off list with your address and promise to continue the weed Dean > Setlists are as follows: > > PATTI SMITH > Disc One 33:19 > 01 Land 6:16 > 02 Ask The Angels 4:23 > 03 Redondo Beach 4:48 > 04 Free Money 4:35 > 05 Queen Of Sheba 7:43 > 06 Space Monkey 5:35 > > Disc Two 74:39 > 01 Pissing In A River 6:40 > 02 Pumping 3:48 > 03 Ain't It Strange 11:41 > 04 Auld Lang Syne > 0:35 > 05 Radio Ethiopia > 7:38 > 06 Rock And Roll Nigger > 9:18 > 07 Gloria 8:26 > 08 The Revenge Of Vera Gemini 4:35 > 09 //Birdland > 12:01 > 10 My Generation* 9:57 > > > JOHN CALE > 1. Helen Of Troy (cuts in) > 2. You Know More Than I Know (cuts in) > 3. Paris 1919 (cuts in) > 4. Darling I Need You (cuts in) > 5. Guts > 6. Fear's A Man's Best Friend (cuts in) > > > TELEVISION > 1. Fire Engine > 2. Friction > 3. Elevation > 4. Little Johnny Jewel > 5. Adventure > 6. Knockin' On Heaven's Door > 7. Kingdom Come (tape flip/drop out @ approx 3:16) > Bonus > 8. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (NYC 1976, unknown date and venue, from > the same tape as NYE show) From babel-list-owner Tue Nov 13 09:49:41 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lADHnf6J019844 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:49:41 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lADHnfEo019843 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:49:41 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imr-d04.mx.aol.com (imr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lADHnbMv019830 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:49:39 -0800 Received: from imo-m13.mail.aol.com (imo-m13.mail.aol.com [172.20.114.177]) by imr-d04.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN8-94739c605158; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:43:01 -0400 Received: from Aphinar by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id m.d3d.184773ea (41811); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:21:26 -0500 (EST) From: Aphinar Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:21:26 EST Subject: re: Rimbaud & Verlaine's London home to become literary centre To: Babel-List CC: CarolGreen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5377 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-IP: 172.20.114.177 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ In a message dated 2007-11-09 5:26:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, carolgreen writes: Strictly speaking this is a 'no Patti content' post but I thought it would be of interest to you all Well actually there *is* some Patti Smith content here, but evidently The Camden New Journal didn't know about it, or care. Fortunately we have The Independent as well, which knows. And cares: "A host of prominent figures, including the author Julian Barnes, the comedian Stephen Fry, the singer Patti Smith and the actor Simon Callow, have backed a campaign to save the [Rimbaud] house". * Jay Dillon Jay Dillon Rare Books + Manuscripts, LLC http://www.jaydillon.com Specialistes de Rimbaud et de rimbaldiana 45 Ocean Avenue 3C Monmouth Beach, New Jersey 07750 USA +732 728 1115 * _The independent_ (London), 12 November 2007, http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article3152339.ece ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From babel-list-owner Tue Nov 13 09:58:46 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lADHwkwE020349 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:58:46 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lADHwk6I020348 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:58:46 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.250]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id lADHwiv1020338 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:58:45 -0800 Received: (qmail 62467 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Nov 2007 17:58:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=ameritech.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=z+8BwxAQFZ49IgZBixXPfhzVizoivuxON0FKkntXAu6jkZp17MGDwYR8OvLySW3+yHqWzRwjbTxcbT5pPyGjcWzABBSAtgfcp/OKD0OIRw65jLNl4xQsc5eNuWJYyE6aVwzU+5ZFmrkGdzL3exE1osLxrcQGrPvJMnds9VMHR2g=; X-YMail-OSG: 3siJUakVM1mD4ajqc4QZn1wTl4XN1uF3.xgU3MqCBtnvenibJxU6weu7Js96Sb64U7ZudOaR7eSgOwYveYFjnri8yYgj9.Auy7o_iJHpTMv1SnipjEklLpkBTg4q6w-- Received: from [69.214.201.62] by web82006.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:58:38 PST Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:58:38 -0800 (PST) From: TOM MOHR Subject: Lenny On Roky To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <374149.59170.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ For those who follow Lenny's writing, he has another article at eMusic, this one about Roky Erickson: http://www.emusic.com/features/spotlight/277_200710.html Lenny mentions this: >> This past August I found myself in Chicago's Abbey Club, the night before both Roky and I would play Lollapalooza (in separate bands, of course). << I was at that show, and I thought I saw Lenny walk by me, but I was not sure it was him -- until now. TWM From babel-list-owner Wed Nov 14 09:22:02 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAEHM2LZ016638 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:22:02 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAEHM2N3016637 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:22:02 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mssmail.mss-inc.com (mssi2000.mss-inc.com [216.151.228.99]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAEHM0tK016623 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:22:01 -0800 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: 4 shows on Wolgang's Vault Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:23:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC7D117886554386344B3321EECA7129A3EA> Thread-Topic: 4 shows on Wolgang's Vault Thread-Index: Acgm4wz3LlGY6NqrSsiprfzmvlH7wA== From: "Combs, Steve" To: X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ 4 shows on Wolgang's Vault. Anybody know how to grab them? http://tinyurl.com/yqav2j 01/16/1976 Cellar Door, Wash DC, early show 1:11:01 01/16/1976 Cellar Door, Wash DC, late show 1:18:18 03/26/1978 Pavilion, Paris 30:10 08/11/1979 CBGB's 2:16:02 From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 15 05:25:49 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAFDPnXX007853 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:25:49 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAFDPnue007852 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:25:49 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAFDPlkY007847 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:25:48 -0800 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so458915pyi for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:25:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Zh56zhhncHI/7gSr5jwqQaeKonWx1EEe2F+vMoGB7hg=; b=LQAubXoZF1j0jfG37KQPQnu27JsV76icZObNX8e6EL8JiY13WwfW86V88ZIX4ljaEnfNHtJGptueJO+Iuedn1JJBP01MVCPztnNhraFgOm9g2V74tlWAHyArQAySubvpL3H8ra5exEdDx9PENL+vhfbvkYEYjx57H59MBz7Snxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kf4fj12Cd9VLku/hjWirhYH3yo8udHecz+VFcUm0lHJMrhRFAmQX4BuUTDtcKgZ4p5hHcGdATmF2EtCDyKbNIhIEw+FE4UdZ96hRza7Y20xrtmr+IWW/rYNW5eeulXa6U5CWCtzK80jszirl9RnsdoHIruVFpIGNYyARbxuLbxA= Received: by 10.64.201.7 with SMTP id y7mr1502033qbf.1195133148289; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.20.8 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:25:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:25:48 +0000 From: "Andrew F Wilson" To: Babel-List Subject: Re: 4 shows on Wolgang's Vault In-Reply-To: <3DCC7D117886554386344B3321EECA7129A3EA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3DCC7D117886554386344B3321EECA7129A3EA> Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Paris and CBGBs seem to be just the usual bootlegs, but the two shows from the Cellar Door are much more interesting! They appear to be the pre-broadcast recordings for a King Biscuit Flour Hour Show. The circulating recording of the radio broadcast is only 30 minutes, but here there is more than two hours. Despite what it says on the website, Spanish Town is by Garland Jeffreys (the support act), not Patti. Kind regards Andrew On Nov 14, 2007 5:23 PM, Combs, Steve wrote: > 4 shows on Wolgang's Vault. > > Anybody know how to grab them? > > http://tinyurl.com/yqav2j > > 01/16/1976 Cellar Door, Wash DC, early show 1:11:01 > > 01/16/1976 Cellar Door, Wash DC, late show 1:18:18 > > 03/26/1978 Pavilion, Paris 30:10 > > 08/11/1979 CBGB's 2:16:02 From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 15 08:24:38 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAFGOcHe017459 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:24:38 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAFGObhJ017458 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:24:37 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web53706.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53706.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.27]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id lAFGOZ4w017448 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:24:36 -0800 Received: (qmail 38963 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Nov 2007 16:24:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=lKRkhJzA6doyMUt7T8rTVWQ4f8Zl/sPmY873XPcLsWMBhWIQwjoO3u3HRby6+Kkq59S1+w7y7CJleRW31FbbKdWVzEpSpOpYcaH4i4nDq2AjYcGLlvafsyWP3lIT6NBEidRS6htpTlqu2OnlKzfi9JeljtP5KiGQhhyM8+76wE0=; X-YMail-OSG: BTNKcSoVM1kAMketf9nw8c0jB.M3iby.s.6paWQcn8AECsD6k1jzu7KMcNwkoMuHctaQLSNGOievbYaGoxqyZxT2Rs3m06Np6dFEJbcFCySA6giq1g-- Received: from [216.158.225.90] by web53706.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:24:30 PST Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:24:30 -0800 (PST) From: Gina Moore Subject: Patti Smith 1976 NYE Weed To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <331708.38316.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Thanks to Mitch,I can make 3 copies of this weed to anyone who will keep the weed growing in this group. Email me off list with your address and promise to continue the weed Gina > Setlists are as follows: > > PATTI SMITH > Disc One 33:19 > 01 Land 6:16 > 02 Ask The Angels 4:23 > 03 Redondo Beach 4:48 > 04 Free Money 4:35 > 05 Queen Of Sheba 7:43 > 06 Space Monkey 5:35 > > Disc Two 74:39 > 01 Pissing In A River 6:40 > 02 Pumping 3:48 > 03 Ain't It Strange 11:41 > 04 Auld Lang Syne > 0:35 > 05 Radio Ethiopia > 7:38 > 06 Rock And Roll Nigger > 9:18 > 07 Gloria 8:26 > 08 The Revenge Of Vera Gemini 4:35 > 09 //Birdland > 12:01 > 10 My Generation* 9:57 > > > JOHN CALE > 1. Helen Of Troy (cuts in) > 2. You Know More Than I Know (cuts in) > 3. Paris 1919 (cuts in) > 4. Darling I Need You (cuts in) > 5. Guts > 6. Fear's A Man's Best Friend (cuts in) > > > TELEVISION > 1. Fire Engine > 2. Friction > 3. Elevation > 4. Little Johnny Jewel > 5. Adventure > 6. Knockin' On Heaven's Door > 7. Kingdom Come (tape flip/drop out @ approx 3:16) > Bonus > 8. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (NYC 1976, unknown date and venue, from > the same tape as NYE show) --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 15 09:16:19 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAFHGIJn020497 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:16:19 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAFHGH2l020496 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:16:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAFHGFL5020490 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:16:16 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so538081nfb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:16:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=WrTxlzWbKwtxqjTU4CTDMV8cSfGVUvSMkMhX36HGRVs=; b=BKXTRSIm3wTsio1ifz2cqbOWPIUqKdVdHoEVfL/wW8jqC9bHXF+jujWEmnLuKOua11JjJTf2nH48WIwFIpenBc7uqND7QPX5sBmBDoacg4/NR3mNe4fztHLyibRaDcXc+ozwX98kC1puQbC09455faTBoh5OBlZlMWMyu9eJNHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=I9eCq5GIVcotee/O0kd23mWX/WNzxiFDZNRTP5dHKXMT4fWJ2N/4pVkf5dud4uciIgf3tVjCYws/vqA4k+qqAtfnRsN9TzIjT7St5Fe8BE0bxRaz3zUOzqykbqG/ZAFXKnwC7C+uV8rFEKgEyW4u3Cv5pZ3StuIGyHrV8DzOFfs= Received: by 10.86.4.2 with SMTP id 2mr806374fgd.1195146974632; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:16:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.74.1 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:16:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:16:14 -0500 From: "Scott Martin" Subject: Re: Patti Smith 1976 NYE Weed Cc: babel-list In-Reply-To: <331708.38316.qm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <331708.38316.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I too can make 3 copies.... First 3 responses to d.scott.martin Thanks Mitch! On 11/15/07, Gina Moore wrote: > > Thanks to Mitch,I can make 3 copies of this weed to anyone who will > keep the weed growing in this group. > Email me off list with your address and promise to continue the weed > > Gina > > Setlists are as follows: > > > > PATTI SMITH > > Disc One 33:19 > > 01 Land 6:16 > > 02 Ask The Angels 4:23 > > 03 Redondo Beach 4:48 > > 04 Free Money 4:35 > > 05 Queen Of Sheba 7:43 > > 06 Space Monkey 5:35 > > > > Disc Two 74:39 > > 01 Pissing In A River 6:40 > > 02 Pumping 3:48 > > 03 Ain't It Strange 11:41 > > 04 Auld Lang Syne > 0:35 > > 05 Radio Ethiopia > 7:38 > > 06 Rock And Roll Nigger > 9:18 > > 07 Gloria 8:26 > > 08 The Revenge Of Vera Gemini 4:35 > > 09 //Birdland > 12:01 > > 10 My Generation* 9:57 > > > > > > JOHN CALE > > 1. Helen Of Troy (cuts in) > > 2. You Know More Than I Know (cuts in) > > 3. Paris 1919 (cuts in) > > 4. Darling I Need You (cuts in) > > 5. Guts > > 6. Fear's A Man's Best Friend (cuts in) > > > > > > TELEVISION > > 1. Fire Engine > > 2. Friction > > 3. Elevation > > 4. Little Johnny Jewel > > 5. Adventure > > 6. Knockin' On Heaven's Door > > 7. Kingdom Come (tape flip/drop out @ approx 3:16) > > Bonus > > 8. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (NYC 1976, unknown date and venue, > from > > the same tape as NYE show) > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 15 09:39:50 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAFHdo6B021765 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:39:50 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAFHdoQ8021764 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:39:50 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mssmail.mss-inc.com (mssi2000.mss-inc.com [216.151.228.99]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAFHdl9R021757 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:39:49 -0800 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Patti Smith 1976 NYE Weed Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:41:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC7D117886554386344B3321EECA7129A3F7> In-Reply-To: Thread-Topic: Patti Smith 1976 NYE Weed Thread-Index: AcgnrWDaVy7S7TlRSmGsb06KGKb3xwAAQ0tA References: <331708.38316.qm> From: "Combs, Steve" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id lAFHdn9R021760 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Sorry to bother, can someone post the link to the artwork again? And, thanks to Jeff R., I also have copies for 3 good homes. From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 15 10:11:35 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAFIBXxd023524 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:11:34 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAFIBXHm023523 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:11:33 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web37310.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37310.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.90.253]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id lAFIBVAS023499 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:11:31 -0800 Received: (qmail 54168 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Nov 2007 18:11:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=yHzAwSRVsJg71mf9fD/3hIn3haavSnxE/PfQk0eVbu4wqm8ellZMqddeTxDNo4nORUMchNEhR2a684vpjNyslJMPmJ1wnWIxCaE6L8myssy01z8Jpcqn33JpgYzTUHX/yXCUTD15BK5FJ26eGE8lSeFtbRRdj9zNk1AlMaE0/xU=; X-YMail-OSG: .yOKHRcVM1lpoy6oK.jSYm3ZIQl8LQCrmejtTTbK_o5sIZSF1W78T86ZZ7Rr1wtlTF_BI5Lg4fY38XZ2A5fdpn3YdNA17mqdBCAC6Hs.ktEm4BNX9uQ- Received: from [71.135.52.118] by web37310.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:11:25 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.152 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:11:25 -0800 (PST) From: skywalker Subject: Re: Patti Smith 1976 NYE Weed To: "Combs, Steve" , babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <359562.48105.qm> Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I've re-uploaded it to http://download.yousendit.com/805F2D692F661A52 thanks for everyone to keeping this Weed alive! coyote ----- Original Message ---- From: "Combs, Steve" To: babel-list Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:41:11 AM Subject: Patti Smith 1976 NYE Weed Sorry to bother, can someone post the link to the artwork again? And, thanks to Jeff R., I also have copies for 3 good homes. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ From babel-list-owner Thu Nov 15 20:51:47 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAG4ploo021930 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:51:47 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAG4pldt021929 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:51:47 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAG4piOZ021919 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:51:46 -0800 Received: from OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DFlt1Y0040EPcho0A05g00; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:51:43 +0000 Received: from XYZ ([24.7.92.9]) by OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DGrg1Y0080C6yMC0800000; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:51:44 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=rITDv7nW5hcA:10 a=6D-Hy7tQAAAA:8 a=PInqg29LH30jB-2orGIA:9 a=jyTLhgJL8n237mvBzcAKvas6Sv0A:4 a=w70mJ0gqfYsA:10 a=kVGR2AMopJ8A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 Reply-To: From: "J" To: Subject: RE: 4 shows on Wolgang's Vault Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:53:43 -0800 Message-ID: <001201c8280c$aa3640e0$6401a8c0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcgnjFcVEESFyf6RQ/qUcVom3PEJJgAfkh0g Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id lAG4pkOZ021925 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ The "bio" information on Patti that accompanies these recordings is pathetically inaccurate: A former college dropout who moved to Greenwich Village in the late 1960s where she developed her skills as a beat poet, Patti Smith eventually discovered that the energetic punk music scene of the mid-1970s [there wasn't that much of a "punk" scene yet in 1974 when Patti recorded Piss Factory] could work as the perfect vehicle for her controversial [??!] poetry and singing style. Having worked initially with a music critic and record store clerk named Lenny Kaye, Smith eventually formed her own band, with Kaye, keyboardist Richard Sohl, bassist Ivan Kral, and drummer Dee Jay [it's Jay Dee, but whatever] Daugherty. They found a home at CBGBs, and began to play there regularly. In 1976, just as the Sex Pistols were changing the face of modern music in the U.K., and as the Ramones were about to do the same stateside, Patti Smith won the attention of Arista Records prexy, Clive Davis [um, Horses was released in 1975, more than 6 months before the first Ramones LP, and the Sex Pistols didn't perform under that name until late 1975 early 1976]. With punk bubbling just under the rock 'n' roll radar, Clive was looking to embrace it. The Patti Smith Group would be his first punk signing, and her debut album, Horses, remains one of the most important rock albums of all time. She became known for electrifying live performances with her band, which often played classic rock covers as a backdrop for her avant-garde poetry [huh? I guess PSG didn't do that many original songs, right?]. Although Smith remained a cutting-edge artist, her work with the Patti Smith Group eventually became predictable [say what??] and she dropped out of music in the 1980s to marry former MC5 guitarist Fred "Sonic" Smith and raise a family. She has returned to touring and recording sporadically since marrying Smith in 1980, but her life took an unexpected twist when he died suddenly of a heart attack in 1994. To help deal with her grief, she returned to writing and recording, and in 2004, returned to the road with a revamped version of the Patti Smith Group [she wasn't ever really gone, and and she "returned" long before 2004]. J -----Original Message----- From: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Andrew F Wilson Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:26 AM To: Babel-List Subject: Re: 4 shows on Wolgang's Vault Paris and CBGBs seem to be just the usual bootlegs, but the two shows from the Cellar Door are much more interesting! They appear to be the pre-broadcast recordings for a King Biscuit Flour Hour Show. The circulating recording of the radio broadcast is only 30 minutes, but here there is more than two hours. Despite what it says on the website, Spanish Town is by Garland Jeffreys (the support act), not Patti. Kind regards Andrew On Nov 14, 2007 5:23 PM, Combs, Steve wrote: > 4 shows on Wolgang's Vault. > > Anybody know how to grab them? > > http://tinyurl.com > > 01/16/1976 Cellar Door, Wash DC, early show 1:11:01 > > 01/16/1976 Cellar Door, Wash DC, late show 1:18:18 > > 03/26/1978 Pavilion, Paris 30:10 > > 08/11/1979 CBGB's 2:16:02 From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 16 05:46:20 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGDkKbV014226 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:46:20 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAGDkK1N014225 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:46:20 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.185]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGDkI6k014218 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:46:19 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k20so696441rvb for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:46:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=khrwuOMd0fy6symR7RZ5SXk3H5Soe2IHiMXsKt4FFm8=; b=MGnqegCocEWTMPIo5AunKTOOzl8ffFcXS+0PEylEowbajYTyzqO3CyNZOjvxYvVMCnq4J8I6EYeHppPxI+W5Cifi/UyeK5SaF3c9fhsdk9H20CM9oK/3a6Cc33QCVIADRMs/G4kt4nuu9ior41cyjdB63CYpo6UcMnpPaXFzekE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=e/cHvqIpylwJbZCN/Bi03JtN4fGIEffhgv/ha1wVfY/fSONwb9E/2WsoDF6EKkHjIuHhr7TDElg0Xkirrn+FzXDekhTbRqlKhDULOWnzk3I2qjtTQpJ/NUU5PXrUCYM9/jNP29+ZNKhbfaN6mjVHAh46S0PIKiMAVazL1j+wREU= Received: by 10.140.179.18 with SMTP id b18mr260874rvf.1195220782045; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.249.18 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:46:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:46:21 -0600 From: "Scott Martin" Subject: Re: Patti Smith 1976 NYE Weed Cc: babel-list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <331708.38316.qm> X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ OK this part of the weed is closed. Look for reoffers from David, Michael, Phil and Philip in Holland. On Nov 15, 2007 11:16 AM, Scott Martin wrote: > I too can make 3 copies.... > First 3 responses to d.scott.martin > > Thanks Mitch! > > > On 11/15/07, Gina Moore wrote: > > > > Thanks to Mitch,I can make 3 copies of this weed to anyone who will > > keep the weed growing in this group. > > Email me off list with your address and promise to continue the weed > > > > Gina > > > Setlists are as follows: > > > > > > PATTI SMITH > > > Disc One 33:19 > > > 01 Land 6:16 > > > 02 Ask The Angels 4:23 > > > 03 Redondo Beach 4:48 > > > 04 Free Money 4:35 > > > 05 Queen Of Sheba 7:43 > > > 06 Space Monkey 5:35 > > > > > > Disc Two 74:39 > > > 01 Pissing In A River 6:40 > > > 02 Pumping 3:48 > > > 03 Ain't It Strange 11:41 > > > 04 Auld Lang Syne > 0:35 > > > 05 Radio Ethiopia > 7:38 > > > 06 Rock And Roll Nigger > 9:18 > > > 07 Gloria 8:26 > > > 08 The Revenge Of Vera Gemini 4:35 > > > 09 //Birdland > 12:01 > > > 10 My Generation* 9:57 > > > > > > > > > JOHN CALE > > > 1. Helen Of Troy (cuts in) > > > 2. You Know More Than I Know (cuts in) > > > 3. Paris 1919 (cuts in) > > > 4. Darling I Need You (cuts in) > > > 5. Guts > > > 6. Fear's A Man's Best Friend (cuts in) > > > > > > > > > TELEVISION > > > 1. Fire Engine > > > 2. Friction > > > 3. Elevation > > > 4. Little Johnny Jewel > > > 5. Adventure > > > 6. Knockin' On Heaven's Door > > > 7. Kingdom Come (tape flip/drop out @ approx 3:16) > > > Bonus > > > 8. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (NYC 1976, unknown date and venue, > > from > > > the same tape as NYE show) > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 16 08:30:28 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGGURfB025629 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:30:28 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAGGURof025627 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:30:27 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGGUQIj025614 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:30:26 -0800 Received: from mailspool3.panix.com (mailspool3.panix.com [166.84.1.78]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8148C13A813 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.panix.com (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mailspool3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4838616970 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:30:26 -0500 (EST) X-Panix-Received: from 67.83.201.23 (SquirrelMail authenticated user smoot) by mail.panix.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:30:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3292.67.83.201.23.1195230626.squirrel> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:30:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Lenny Kaye appearance in NYC From: "Rebecca Lewis" To: babel-list User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ This film is at Anthology for one week with lots of special. Lenny is introducing it on December 11th and the the other two things mentioned are show films. (I put together the events calendar for WFMU and saw this today.) December 11 at Anthology Film Archives 32 2nd Ave (at 2nd Street) / New York (Web: http://www.anthologyfilmarchives.org) Holy Modal Rounders Documentary "Bound to Lose" (Dec 7-14 only) featuring features endearing and hilarious appearances by playwright (and former Rounders drummer) Sam Shepard, Dennis Hopper, John Sebastian of The Lovin9 Spoonful, Peter Tork of the Monkees, Ed Sanders and Tuli Kupferberg of the Fugs, Loudon Wainwright III, Ira Kaplan of Yo La Tengo, music editor Robert Christgau of the Village Voice, Wavy Gravy and many more. Tonight: Intro: Lenny Kaye with Ed English's "The Fugs" and Harry Smith's "Mirror Abstractions" -- Rebecca From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 16 10:32:17 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGIWHd5000867 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:32:17 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAGIWHUf000866 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:32:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGIWFE1000861 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:32:16 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k20so775746rvb for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:32:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=IE8c7dIFxrxNGoepcPFtidqs0VMVYFgGPAkP1w6ShGc=; b=c/4nyJFcHwgn2sDC61ZtTrTqYcS1p7cqL8/i3jWx6qEkDntlkmnQ5mXPrCXhjqV6t/8BqjDu2hOOuf3Yo7tREP1IXJVqfGHqyHA8nimaraK10frNG/vIh6SjSOZuHahbSwapQ7/5UYvO7MtMaHt0CeppPIAyyEOajdiAAJ7zENA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ubDyZW+TWtsmFKoFAvFr+xz8lRcaROYFYOi1MDgWEKWaGX0dyKpR2Olynkeeg28dP2RywvcJDcpOXy201l90uAyxaHIHf9kvbnX7QY7eqnIUo65n3JylJ8v8LBZFukq6odaHRVFe+7Q+529Wv01/v+tIiTuo2CBkLVhZSxJCB6I= Received: by 10.140.132.8 with SMTP id f8mr792572rvd.1195237936962; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.34.3 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:32:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:32:16 +0000 From: "Andrew McVicar" To: babel-list Subject: Radio Ethiopia t shirt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Does anyone know where the print on the Radio Ethiopia t shirt comes from? I work in a development NGO and everyone assumes it's a right on thing referring to an Ethiopian radio station....perhaps it does? cheers Andrew From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 16 10:34:25 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGIYPki000995 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:34:25 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAGIYPvZ000994 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:34:25 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from bsmtp.bon.at (bsmtp.bon.at [213.33.87.14]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGIYMaS000972 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:34:23 -0800 Received: from zech3 (unknown [194.208.150.42]) by bsmtp.bon.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id F162ACF88F; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:59:52 +0100 (CET) From: "Alice" To: "'Scott Martin'" Cc: References: <331708.38316.qm> Subject: AW: Patti Smith 1976 NYE Weed and some meandering as well Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:59:52 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01c8287a$7d5c20d0$0300a8c0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: thread-index: AcgoWYNLME9GXA1cQNe1skFHmroZdQAHZcjw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id lAGIYOaS000989 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Thanks Jeff! I offer copies of this weed to the first 2 askers - preferably in Europe. I swore I had enough concerts and would refrain from getting more and making more copies, but just this one more time... And I must say, I was listening to some of the past New Years etc. concerts last week, and they are wonderful. In fact, now I forget which year (2000 or 2001), but Patti sings at one point: "one of these days I'm gonna do it". I heard her repeat that a few times and then I decided: NOW is one of these days. So this year, for the first time in 22 years, I am going to fly over from Austria and spend Christmas day with my mother in New York City. And since I happen to be in the neighbourhood, I am finally going to attend all 3 concerts. That is something I have wished for since...?? And of course Mom gets to go to with me. And it means I don't have to get up at 4 am this New Year's Day to listen to the Sirius live broadcast! ;-) Actually, I had 2 magic moments that day. I was purposely listening to the CDs because I was knitting a prayer shawl for a friend over there recovering from breast cancer, and I'd decided that Patti live was the perfect musical energy (and humor) with which to infuse the shawl - while praying/thinking about my friend during the whole process. (For more info if you need to knit one for someone you love, google "prayer shawl".) It was kind of spooky/neat - as I was just sewing up the last few stray ends, "Gone Pie" was on. And she sings: "May you live a long life." Perfect timing! Exactly my wish. So I quickly folded up the shawl with that energy and wrapped it up with that wish still resonating through the wool, and took it to the post office. Thank you Patti! Greetings, Alice -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] Im Auftrag von Scott Martin Gesendet: Freitag, 16. November 2007 14:46 Cc: babel-list Betreff: Re: Patti Smith 1976 NYE Weed OK this part of the weed is closed. Look for reoffers from David, Michael, Phil and Philip in Holland. On Nov 15, 2007 11:16 AM, Scott Martin wrote: > I too can make 3 copies.... > First 3 responses to d.scott.martin > > Thanks Mitch! > > > On 11/15/07, Gina Moore wrote: > > > > Thanks to Mitch,I can make 3 copies of this weed to anyone who will > > keep the weed growing in this group. > > Email me off list with your address and promise to continue the weed > > > > Gina > > > Setlists are as follows: > > > > > > PATTI SMITH > > > Disc One 33:19 > > > 01 Land 6:16 > > > 02 Ask The Angels 4:23 > > > 03 Redondo Beach 4:48 > > > 04 Free Money 4:35 > > > 05 Queen Of Sheba 7:43 > > > 06 Space Monkey 5:35 > > > > > > Disc Two 74:39 > > > 01 Pissing In A River 6:40 > > > 02 Pumping 3:48 > > > 03 Ain't It Strange 11:41 > > > 04 Auld Lang Syne > 0:35 > > > 05 Radio Ethiopia > 7:38 > > > 06 Rock And Roll Nigger > 9:18 > > > 07 Gloria 8:26 > > > 08 The Revenge Of Vera Gemini 4:35 > > > 09 //Birdland > 12:01 > > > 10 My Generation* 9:57 > > > > > > > > > JOHN CALE > > > 1. Helen Of Troy (cuts in) > > > 2. You Know More Than I Know (cuts in) > > > 3. Paris 1919 (cuts in) > > > 4. Darling I Need You (cuts in) > > > 5. Guts > > > 6. Fear's A Man's Best Friend (cuts in) > > > > > > > > > TELEVISION > > > 1. Fire Engine > > > 2. Friction > > > 3. Elevation > > > 4. Little Johnny Jewel > > > 5. Adventure > > > 6. Knockin' On Heaven's Door > > > 7. Kingdom Come (tape flip/drop out @ approx 3:16) > > > Bonus > > > 8. (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (NYC 1976, unknown date and venue, > > from > > > the same tape as NYE show) > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 16 11:03:50 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGJ3oeJ002858 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:03:50 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAGJ3o8E002856 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:03:50 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.70]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id lAGJ3mJE002841 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:03:49 -0800 Received: (qmail 39791 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2007 19:03:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=sQYUFwszBGsU4QYqjtfkm8bEqRW73mtwgXi7VA4JE7hCr3pP2/4ozZso1VvIiehRMdmFkRyLGxcWv4Tsrai09nhYK31LLMWOld0dAp0MJwXZ6qR2XrxdIf1MdMsgP1/m0XNM3Z6z11K1+XUteS2s0k5O+4KPAJFZjztnNsx8VgU=; X-YMail-OSG: _w4jzvYVM1mgSsnh2.4th5JxEE1HS0Et2oppriPzgz18fSlEB4IisZHuSKDfcp8Y.Q-- Received: from [4.157.14.36] by web31807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:03:45 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.158 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:03:45 -0800 (PST) From: bob torsello Reply-To: shrubsusa Subject: Patti Smith 1976 NYE weed To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <619164.36216.qm> Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Thanks to Jeff, I can offer 3 copies to folks who will also re-offer copies to the group. Please e-mail me off-list. Thanks, bob ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 16 12:44:01 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGKi1MA009109 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:44:01 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAGKi171009108 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:44:01 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAGKhx7Q009094 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:44:00 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k20so808621rvb for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:44:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HOkSgRxf5YE8JygvaGPx/VwcZAHYhA0t/4AxrsjideU=; b=blZUyPaJN9HxLw5q8d8lbDTxReyfCLRVFK+wBW7F2XHXLLMQsffNBwrx/kQxxr3cQ7oN0z+EGbttnRJNgeacEJ6GHIwPDYe/oewuRKu0kmbqCZCl4Kp1+MSn5rIK18hcCVJN6qvC5jaz9EMnIEGL2tF2V/hf8uUxVtZnQW2vkjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dCMNwbVJVYWiM/GmbYCN0MC1YBl8wEf3CoOhhZBcUkxO1jZK2KZwqIuUm1BylC9xVydsMh2n7pTMvjScSRMJCHjt6mBHKN3RHpb2FpgeShKNzZCESBG1ylk4Uvx6m5ffN9IH3eSfAVp0yN0TI6xf3SCoAft4mN+GFIYYN/r+kyk= Received: by 10.140.128.3 with SMTP id a3mr866645rvd.1195245846627; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.87.17 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:44:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:44:06 -0800 From: "Page Rox" To: "Andrew McVicar" Subject: Re: Radio Ethiopia t shirt Cc: "Babel- List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I wish I did--when you find out please let me know! This is something I hadn't thought about. Thanks! XO-Glenna On Nov 16, 2007 10:32 AM, Andrew McVicar wrote: > Does anyone know where the print on the Radio Ethiopia t shirt comes from? I > work in a development NGO and everyone assumes it's a right on thing > referring to an Ethiopian radio station....perhaps it does? > > cheers > Andrew From babel-list-owner Fri Nov 16 16:12:29 2007 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAH0CSrJ017667 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:29 -0800 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id lAH0CSPO017666 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:28 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id lAH0CQTG017660 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:27 -0800 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so1537425pyi for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=iKCcxxOi5kLUlXsGjBsKnHe1S8dhuDhHPOfbaMs3/rw=; b=dtjnxWsvElKcSZ2SwiQmYRJgRlJC66m6/1GpMMvtmq/xOTTohl7XylApt61jE78W4lgn1hwIKoj2ZTrhqjxhPMXEVg7mlbwt00//Rl9Cc5tyKdGlW4kGZJDCchm5vyUkQoQYKMGFe1XK59ypdLDjIAiOSUXyZtYNwkjVZQJsbJY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ogtX1ZTn8KOwUyDtvDdRtiyMu2c/WKNcT93KEKOs53HV+kEEKjnAEvVHPJACGtqGuseSlv35tlo/8S3un9x9+i4wHHk4jKjDCxmZiFWKicteHo1fmj+HMhKf0CBEoXMOXIaE7gX8NJiGjqfB733+VG+u+LGv777P2GJSrtHW+ko= Received: by 10.64.210.3 with SMTP id i3mr5402570qbg.1195258347727; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.20.8 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:12:27 +0000 From: "Andrew F Wilson" To: Babel-list Subject: Time Out (London) Interview MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id lAH0CSTG017661 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ An interview with Patti from Time Out, published last May, but it don't think it was widely seen at the time. Andrew ------------------------------ Patti Smith: interview Punk poetess Patti Smith is adamant that rock 'n' roll still matters, though Michael Hodges isn't so convinced. 'It was evil, corrupt, caused chaos in the world and lead to the death and suffering of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.' Patti Smith is telling everyone in the first-floor lounge of the Covent Garden Hotel  which is mainly rich men and rich women  just what she thinks about her country's invasion of Iraq. The rich women glance down at their cocktails, the rich men readjust their cufflinks. They're not here for an impromptu lecture from a 60-year-old woman who looks and sounds like she's escaped from the oracle at Delphi, they've come here to talk about shopping. But it's too late now; they're going to have to shut up and listen. 'I'm not afraid of terrorism at all,' Smith tears on. 'I'm afraid of loss of our freedom, loss of mobility, loss of global comradeship. I live down the street from the World Trade Centre, I saw it come down. I knew people who died there. That did not have the same emotional effect on my morale as what the Bush administration has done in response.' Unexpectedly this is going down well with the wealthy crowd: is an American woman really saying that Bush is a worse disaster for the world than 9/11? 'Absolutely. A stronger, more decent man could've used September 11 to global advantage, tried to find some dialogue but it went the opposite way. I haven't studied world global politics and I knew that it would be a disaster.' In 2004 Smith wrote 'Radio Baghdad' in response to the invasion, a bitter commentary on the US bombing one of the mother cities of world civilisation ('It wasn't political it was humanist: how would I feel as a mother, on the first day of spring, to have bombs falling on my city?') but the rest of the rock world  happy, like most rich people, to wear Make Poverty History T-shirts  was conspicuously quiet when it came to bombing women and children. It took country music to voice any credible opposition to the insanities and inanities of the war on terror. 'We don't have the Dixie Chicks' visibility.' Smith contends. 'They're huge. They got, like, nine Grammys or something. They were raked over the coals for what they did and then they were also rewarded. We did stuff  150,000 people in Washington DC  and the media didn't cover it. Like we didn't exist. We were betrayed by the media, our government, even the Democratic party. Now I find it very difficult to be in my country.' Smith is in our country to play the Roundhouse and promote 'Twelve', an album of covers in part inspired by her complete rejection of her country's foreign  and, one suspects, domestic  policy and the random songs she encountered on the radio in a New York cafi. 'When I heard "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" I said, "Right on brother, everybody does want to rule the world." That's why we're in such a mess. The higher-ups carved up the world after World War II  this bit's for France, this bit's for Israel. Well, you can't carve up the world. It's not a pie.' Unfo