RE: 10 years of comeback boots.

["Gart, Mitchell" <MGart>]

Yes that's the one I love.  I still think of it as Patti's second album,
since it came out after Horses and before Radio Ethiopia.

Are some songs removed from the live show to fit on vinyl?
Is there a more complete recording of that show somewhere?
It's from early 1976 in LA.

- Mitch
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-babel-list 
> [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of J
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:58 AM
> To: 'babel-list'
> Subject: RE: 10 years of comeback boots.
> 
> Personally, for mid-70s Patti I'd have to pick "Teenage 
> Perversity and Ships
> in the Night."
> Yes, its edited down to fit on vinyl, etc., but it's a really 
> fine example
> of what her 1976 shows were like.
> 
> 
> J 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-babel-list 
> > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of weapons 
> > of mass destruction-related program activities
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:25 AM
> > To: babel-list
> > Subject: 10 years of comeback boots.
> > 
> > 
> > It's a recurring question on listservs -- "If you had to 
> > pick five (or ten, or whatever) exemplary bootlegs by our 
> > favorite artist, what would you pick?" It's usually a 
> > fairly fleeting topic, because people have a pretty firm 
> > idea of the most near and dear to them personally, and
> > even a clear idea of what they'd burn for a "newbie". 
> > 
> > I had the opportunity to answer this for real for someone 
> > with a new iPod who wanted some live Patti. I was surprised
> > by the experience, and discovered a few things in the 
> > process. 
> > 
> > Among the discoveries/revelations (to me, at least)...
> > 
> > * A lot of the commonly available 70s stuff is just not
> >   ready for prime time. 
> > 
> >   The stuff is either a woefully incomplete set, or too 
> >   many generationss down for someone who isn't a hardcore
> >   completist, or edited to fit on a vinyl LP, or what 
> >   have you. With the disclaimer that the 70s are woefully 
> >   underrepresented in my personal collection, I had
> >   a really tough time picking stuff out from that era. 
> > 
> >   I may yet slip in "Never talked to Bob Dylan", 
> >   which is really the only "Horses" era boot I can 
> >   think of in reasonable sound which has not been 
> >   so edited so as to be devoid of impact. But 
> >   so far? I just supplied the latest umpteenth 
> >   remaster of the Tower '79 show. The Patti of 
> >   1979 is not the Patti of 1976, however. So my 
> >   effort still lacks. In my searching, I saw that 
> >   there is a dead torrent up at dime of a complete 
> >   Bottom Line '75 show. That would be sweet, but 
> >   until then...
> > 
> > 
> > * By contrast, it was a tough job whittling down 
> >   stuff from 1997 to 2001 to only one or two shows. 
> >   I can't get enough of those days. In the end, I 
> >   discovered over the weekend a lone Dime seeder 
> >   seeding a 1999 show from Italy I hadn't heard of 
> >   before. It had great, fresh energy, so I decided 
> >   to not sweat the small stuff (a little too much 
> >   crowd noise, and the last song is truncated, and 
> >   I actually didn't listen all the way through) in favor
> >   of supplying something which is really attractive 
> >   as a whole package. Made the chore seem less of 
> >   a chore. (And if that seed is reading, know 
> >   that your generosity is much appreciated.) 
> > 
> > 
> > * Tom Verlaine.
> > 
> >   Having Tom on a show makes a big big difference, 
> >   IMHO. I wanted to include a complete (or near 
> >   complete), decent-sounding 1996 show not only 
> >   because of TV, but also because of the great, airy
> >   atmosphere a lot of those shows had. In this, 
> >   my choice was easily made for me, because pretty 
> >   much all I had that was "fit for company" was 
> >   the boot "Barefoot Poetess" (Hamburg 1996, made 
> >   from an FM b'cast). 
> > 
> >   The source I burned from was one I personally 
> >   speed-corrected for my own use, as "BP" suffers
> >   a long, slow, gradual speed change, culminating
> >   in being off by almost 5% (IIRC). 
> > 
> >   I gave "my" version some extra time for 
> >   listening, because I feared that the "correcting" 
> >   I did in 1997 or thereabouts would be an 
> >   embarrassment to hear today, but it held up 
> >   very nicely. Something else that held up very 
> >   nicely? The 4X Imation CD-Rs I burned my work 
> >   on to - at 2X - on an external HP USB (1.1) 
> >   burner. No errors on those babies, and I'm 
> >   guessing they are eight or nine years old 
> >   now. (Keep 'em dark! Keep 'em clean!) 
> > 
> > 
> > * Not all homegrown music maestros are so successful.
> >  
> >   It seems that a lossy-source 2001 Patti show got 
> >   torrented on Dime in the last year unbeknownst to 
> >   anybody. (Well, maybe someone DID eventually mention 
> >   it in the torrent's comments section, but I couldn't 
> >   find this torrent still in the datrabase). It was 
> >   the last Village Underground show from June of 2001. 
> > 
> >   The very first handclaps on the very first track 
> >   before she even speaks gave it away. They had that 
> >   "tunnel" artifact you get on every damn audience 
> >   recording that's been badly compressed and has 
> >   handclaps in close proximity to the taper. Ick!
> >   I hate that sound. 
> > 
> >   Turns out - this torrent, at some point, had been 
> >   the same exact source as was used for the show in 
> >   the six-disc "box set" from that engagement: 
> >   "Bitch can Wail". Obviously, I went for the 
> >   uncompressed one (before compressing it, I know, 
> >   I know...).  I paid cash for BCW on eBay a long 
> >   time ago, and don't regret it at all.