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Re: Fwd: Re: Patti on Conan



hard to be her boyfriend with all of us crazy maniac fans?????? Ollie didn't 
give a crap...he became a meanspirited son of a bitch as soon as he got over 
his stage fright....all he managed to do was make patti a nastier person 
than she normally has been since I ever have been in her vicinity....she is 
very very nice now.....I guess its a relief to be rid of the little 
untalented turd and get rid of the charade that he's her collaberator and a 
poet....his output over their 10 years call whatever song they did together 
patti's gift and her belief that Ollie had talent....as for Tony, he's a 
saint, yeah he got along with Ollie, did he have a choice....???? I give him 
credit for keeping the band together when no one else could stand the little 
untalented nonmusical whiner..I think he broke up many a band meeting fight, 
and many a non band meeting fight too....Tony has the patience of Job and 
the talent of a multiinstrumentalist.....as the new guy I guess he got stuck 
with the job of keeping Lenny from quitting or walking off stage as Oliver 
got treated like the son of George HW Bush, and had about as much musical 
literacy as W has intelligence or ability to 
speak/talk/walk/empathize/lead/read/or ride a bike.  I would like to point 
out that Ollie rose to the top despite his no talent and underwear model cum 
beat poet sensitive pale blue eyes hooked into the Ann Arbor Ginsberg Annual 
Poetry Project probably cuz of his stockbroker/rich wall street type 
divorced (how broken he must be and so thin) dad who had connections where 
he had the good/bad fortune to meet patti...all I want to say is what about 
the Andi Ostrowe's of Patti's world, the person who sat and wrote down the 
words patti dictated from her hospital bed wherever that was, when she was 
recovering for months after she broke her neck in January 1976....??????? 
Andi took down every word by hand that patti said and that was 
Babel....without Andi, no Babel.... What about those people????  The people 
at Gotham Book Mart that helped her sell her books, other book people that 
didn't rip her off like that first guy did.....Hanuman Books, yeah Ollie 
worked there I think, not due to his creative output tho.... what about 
Sadowsky musical instruments that the band used for a while.....did they 
help out the band???? what about the Bowery Ballroom setting aside New Years 
and two other days the first year or 2 not knowing who would show 
up.....Just so this isn't a stupid email check out cafepress.com, (or org), 
its a bunch of local/small businesses working out of one email address with 
great bumper stickers.   I just thought of one stupid one: Tony likes Ollie. 
Go Tony!!!!  Tony is A Tiger.... Dreamy Tony Shanahan...all the Girls and 
Boys Love Tony!!!!!! He's from NJ.  NJ 's looking for a state slogan, I say. 
New Jersey: Home of Dreamy Tony Shanahan. JTC, vitriolicolliebasheritsfun.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "unnamed user" <unnameduser>
To: "Phil Grabar" <pgrabar>; <babel-list>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: RE: Fwd: Re: Patti on Conan


> Darn, you saw through my alias. I was going to try to create a groundswell
> for my return. If only I were old enough to have shot junk with you guys 
> in
> the 70's, then I could be accepted as a true bohemian artiste. Yoko
> Ray.......Have you ever noticed how most redneck fellons usually have the
> name Ray or Wayne Ray?
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Phil Grabar <pgrabar>
>> To: <babel-list>
>> Date: 12/14/2005 7:00:41 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: Re:  Patti on Conan
>>
>> >Hey Oliver - welcome to babel-list!
>>
>>
>>
>> >   Jesus, you guys are hard on Oliver. I rather liked him. He and
>> > Tony seemed to genuinely like each other. In the 5 or 6 concerts
>> > I've seen him in, he has been excellent. I admit, I never saw him
>> > in his training period, but the band has been tight in several of
>> > the shows I've seen. It must have been rough to be Patti's
>> > boyfriend and have to deal with you nutty/possessive fans. Cut him
>> > some slack. He wasn't perfect, but neither are any of us.
>> >
>> >unnamed user
>> >unnameduser
>> >Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
>>
>>
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