From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 1 10:20:48 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j81HKk6T024496 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 10:20:48 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j81HKkqv024495 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 10:20:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j81HKj5X024490 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 10:20:45 -0700 Received: from sccqwbc03 (sccqwbc03.asp.att.net[204.127.203.163]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20050901172039m92009jee7e>; Thu, 1 Sep 2005 17:20:39 +0000 Received: from [198.133.100.133] by sccqwbc03; Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:20:39 +0000 From: rlking To: babel-list Subject: CBGB article - cnn Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:20:39 +0000 Message-Id: <090120051720.12313.431738670000FF1400003019219791336309020705049D> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Jun 21 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: cmxraW5nQG1jaHNpLmNvbQ== Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/01/music.cbgbs.lease.ap/index.html From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 4 19:12:21 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j852CL63006203 for ; 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Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:52:49 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j856qnQf014281 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:52:49 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j856ql5p014276 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:52:48 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (cpe-24-174-17-96.houston.res.rr.com [24.174.17.96]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j856qke2007560 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:52:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004701c5b1e6$6c3e8c00$6011ae18> From: "rslovacek" To: References: <27.7907c620.304d0371> Subject: Re: Singer Patti Smith Slams George Bush Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:52:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ WOW ----- Original Message ----- From: Poemsl1 To: babel-list ; eternalcafe ; tv-owner ; Television-group Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:12 PM Subject: Singer Patti Smith Slams George Bush _http://www.times.spb.ru/story/15411_ (http://www.times.spb.ru/story/15411) xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Mon Sep 5 16:38:40 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j85Nce7j016438 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:38:40 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j85Ncepd016437 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:38:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.204]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j85NcbLh016429 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:38:39 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so654794nzk for ; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=sY+fsOtWijp+odCGNRHZmP7d+UiX9UF8teVzc/Uwv9xPI96dcg3nWgCBjHU2qlozg12C0TAZmnokRXKRLW+288RbFsLguO940ejjfsdwnAcsw2SJTXe/uHqWacPE5MgqhG2TN/+Np3azvUkXWhgIaB1EN/eCkc1aO5SoFApxNEM= Received: by 10.36.119.11 with SMTP id r11mr5077255nzc; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.109.6 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 00:38:32 +0100 From: Andrew F Wilson Reply-To: andrewfwilson To: babel-list Subject: Patti in Russia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Here are links to some pieces about Patti's two concerts in Russia. St Petersburg Times, review of press conference http://www.sptimes.ru/story/15411 St Petersburg Times, concert preview http://www.sptimes.ru/story/15431 St Petersburg Times, interview http://www.sptimes.ru/story/15360 Moscow News, concert preview http://english.mn.ru/english/issue.php?2005-33-29 Kind regards Andrew From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 6 01:12:47 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j868ClIH000610 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 01:12:47 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j868ClMq000609 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 01:12:47 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from exchsov.liniagrafic.ru (exchsov.liniagrafic.ru [85.21.14.195]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id j868CiRL000604 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 01:12:46 -0700 Received: by exchsov.liniagrafic.ru with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:11:31 +0400 Message-ID: <08D535281091F944BB3EBFDD0949CC120F5EA6> From: Andrey Manoukhin To: "'babel-list'" Subject: Re: Patti in Russia Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:11:29 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Andrew F Wilson wrote: > Here are links to some pieces about Patti's two concerts in Russia. There were more, but all in russian, so... sorry. Some photos from Saint Peterburg: http://www.livejournal.com/users/feliksd/113001.html Some unprofessional photos from Moscow: http://www.livejournal.com/users/_palka/116698.html and http://www.livejournal.com/users/the_slider04/75314.html Some professional photos from Moscow (Nadezhda Lebedeva): http://www.zvuki.ru/R/P/13683 Brief Moscow review: Concert was sheduled on 23:00 (Moscow time), we came at 21:00 and there was no one in, except Umka (famous local underground singer, similar to Patti: http://www.umka.ru - especially go to photo and albums sections). I played with Umka for about 3 years on percussion, so we are good friends. I've got Early Works and Coral Sea with me and the idea to sign it. Umka told me she guided Patti to Arbat (local art street) for a half of day - so she may pass the books to sign. After signing Patti came out and we briefly talked. She was very tired: time zone difference seemed hard, so she excused and went back to her room. She told me that she asked for earlier begining, but venue rejected. Concert started almost at time, there were more than 600 people, and it was hard to breathe. Lineup was compact: Patti, Lenny, Tony and Jay Dee (very imposant in his white jacket). Sometimes Jessie come onstage to play keyboards, sometimes, when Tony switched to keyboards, the roadie (don't know his name) played bass. Umka joined on two songs to sing chorus. I won't write anything about the impression, because I was jumping and singing and having so good time I, maybe, never experienced on any live event in my life. "The life well lived" - that's all I can say now. *** Below is the setlist with some remarks. 25 Floor Bass cabinet burned Rap (after the first song bass cabinet burned, so it was briefly replaced, while Patti said: "Errr... we've got some technical problems... We must have blown out something. But... We don't need no fucking amps! We're amplifying from within!" - The technical problems continued some times more, but mostly onstage, sound in auditorium itself was good and clear) Redondo Beach Space Monkey (with Jessie on keyboards) Oh Great Man (lyrics that I never heard or read, performed by Patti on acoustic guitar playing E chord and Tony on pedal bass) -> -> My Blakean Year Free Money (with roadie on bass) Ghost Dance (with Umka on vocal and roadie on bass) Beneath the Southern Cross Ain't It Strange We Three CBGB Rap (Patti: "They always ask me, what was CBGB like. (in different voices:) "What was CBGB like? What was CBGB like?" In CBGB pauses between songs could be 15 or 20 minutes: some combo may be burned, some string may be broken, some guy may stoned...") Beslan (crying half-improvised song dedicated to Beslan tragedy in Ingushetia exactly 1 year ago, that killed more than 300 children, Patti plays clarinet) Dancing Barefoot (with Jessie on keyboards) Because the Night (with roadie on bass) Peaceble Kingdom (dedicated to Luisiana and Mississippi tornado victims) -> -> Not Fade Away People Have The Power (with Umka on vocal) Encore: (As Patti appeared after 5 or 6 minutes of constant applause, some guy broke close to stage with album covers to sign. - Where are you from? - Patti asked. - Moscow! - Moscow... Hmm... Well, I guess I have nothing else to do right now! (to audience:) You know, you're all gonna have to wait! Because... my mother always told me... never to say "no"... to an idiot. Everybody laughed, except for the guy who haven't understand a word, ahd a bunch of others, who started THEIR run for autograph. As they jumped and waved their hands, Patti said: "Nope. Only one idiot per city".) Like a Rolling Stone -> -> Rock N Roll Nigger (Some young drunk with collar below his chest tried to jump onstage to do the stagediving. The guards immediately threw him offstage. Patti, remembering her own fall, came close to the ramp, find him in the audience and drag onstage again, where he danced wildly for a minute and stagedived head-forward on the concrete floor.) -> -> Gloria (Between RR Nigger and Gloria Patti rapped about "We don't need no fucking security, just be united and no security would be needed, no cameras, no metal detectors, no nothing, just help your brother. We are free!") *** What a great! -- J. From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 6 02:46:01 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j869k1Yt004398 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 02:46:01 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j869k1l9004397 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 02:46:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j869jxb2004389 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 02:46:00 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id m.149.4c43c93f (4410) for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 05:45:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: <149.4c43c93f.304ebf52> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 05:45:54 EDT Subject: Re: Patti in Russia To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Great review of Patti in Moscow! Thanks! xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 8 14:16:18 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j88LGIPK012561 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 14:16:18 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j88LGIqK012560 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 14:16:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j88LGF2Z012553 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 14:16:15 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.3.) id r.13d.1b1e7a5d (3842); Thu, 8 Sep 2005 17:15:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: <13d.1b1e7a5d.3052040e> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 17:15:58 EDT Subject: Hit 'em with the numbers: Sign petition to save CBGB's from eviction! To: Paths_That_Cross, PoetsandArtists, jimcarroll, maxslist, pieman, babel-list, eternalcafe, lynnsamuels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ CBGB SERVED EVICTION NOTICE AND CONTINUES TO FIGHT! 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All we want is the same thing the Governor, the Mayor, and 43 City Council members want -- that is to sit down with the BRC and negotiate in good faith a new lease that is fair to all parties." -- Hilly Kristal, owner and founder of CBGB Seena, We were served with eviction papers last night.... and....... we are staying and fighting! _Help us show that "We've Got The Numbers" - please ask your friends to sign the official Save CBGB petition and help our coalition grow!_ (http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?key=35985115&url_num=5&url=http://savecbgb.o rg/friend) With your help we have been able to deliver over 30,000 signatures to the mayor and have gained the backing of 43 city council members!--- Background Information on CBGB Eviction Even after the Manhattan Courts ruled that CBGB was not in the wrong about incorrectly billed rent increases and should not be evicted, CBGB was served with eviction papers from their landlord, a homeless organization, the Bowery Residents Committee. 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From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 8 18:59:42 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j891xeLg024140 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:59:42 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j891xeke024139 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:59:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from fpo.gloryroad.net (fpo.gloryroad.net [216.228.97.45]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j891xbc5024132 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:59:39 -0700 Received: from IBM55704AC93B3 (opop1-092.gloryroad.net [216.228.104.92]) by fpo.gloryroad.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C38C7FC1E6; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:59:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Amy Edge" To: "'Keith'" Cc: Subject: RE: This is why I love google (npc) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:59:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <27638159.1126227544029.JavaMail.root> Thread-Index: AcW02kVkI5lmGl1TTpaD3c2y821jmwAB8QhA Message-Id: <20050909015935.0C38C7FC1E6> Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Moron also works well... -----Original Message----- From: owner-babel-list [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Keith Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:59 PM To: babel-list Subject: This is why I love google (npc) Go to google.com type in failure and click i am feeling lucky! From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 8 19:20:03 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j892K3Ea024688 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:20:03 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j892K3bO024687 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:20:03 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.65]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j892K1O6024680 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:20:02 -0700 Received: from elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.31]) by pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EDYUl-0006yF-00; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:20:03 -0400 Message-ID: <27175524.1126232403104.JavaMail.root> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:20:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Keith Reply-To: Keith To: Amy Edge Subject: RE: This is why I love google (npc) Cc: babel-list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Bush: Worst disaster to hit US Go here: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/brandon929/bushdisasterresize.jpg From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 8 19:17:43 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j892HflY024594 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:17:42 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j892Hfjg024593 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:17:41 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.65]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j892Ha5f024587 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:17:40 -0700 Received: from elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.31]) by pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EDYSJ-00064L-00; Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:17:31 -0400 Message-ID: <20435152.1126232251260.JavaMail.root> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:17:31 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Keith Reply-To: Keith To: Amy Edge Subject: RE: This is why I love google (npc) Cc: babel-list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Nice, thanks for passing that on too. We can't do attachments to the best of my knowledge but a friend sent me a screen cap from either CNN or Fox News. It's got a photo of GW at a press conference and it's quoting him but it looks like it says "Bush the worst disaster to hit the USA" I laughed!!!!! I'll try to see if I can find out where it came from. Keith -----Original Message----- From: Amy Edge Moron also works well... -----Original Message----- From: Keith Jensen Go to google.com type in failure and click i am feeling lucky! From babel-list-owner Fri Sep 9 07:04:15 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j89E4Fof017362 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:04:15 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j89E4FDf017361 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:04:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net (smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net [209.240.205.136]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j89E4EQW017353 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:04:14 -0700 Received: from storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3201.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 3F8D8D63A for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production) by storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id HAA13324; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAljeW4MKzdindwC0zW8HROMTJ/XkCFQDAqgBP5oYxr17LsHeThp4jXD1dYA== From: Julie987 (Julie York) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:04:02 -0700 To: Babel-list Subject: This is why I love google (npc) Message-ID: <26712-43219652-1718> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ You guys crack me up (made me laugh)! Bush is giving us the evil eye in the picture! From babel-list-owner Fri Sep 9 11:03:07 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j89I36hQ024078 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:03:07 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j89I36hC024077 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:03:06 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from absamail.co.za (mail3.absamail.co.za [196.35.40.69]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j89I31Ut024067 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 11:03:04 -0700 Received: from absamail.co.za not authenticated [196.35.40.67] by absamail.co.za with NetMail SMTP Agent $Revision: 3.22.1.16 $ on Novell NetWare; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:16:33 +0200 Received: from aglze13546za zoyd_ [196.39.57.232] by absamail.co.za with NetMail SMTP Agent $Revision: 3.22.1.16 $ on Novell NetWare; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:16:32 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c5b568$b25ea320$e83927c4> From: "Trevor Baudach" To: "babel-list" References: <20050909015935.0C38C7FC1E6> Subject: Re: This is why I love google (npc) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 20:02:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Moron is great! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Edge" To: "'Keith'" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 3:59 AM Subject: RE: This is why I love google (npc) > Moron also works well... > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Keith > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:59 PM > To: babel-list > Subject: This is why I love google (npc) > > Go to google.com > type in failure > and click i am feeling lucky! From babel-list-owner Sat Sep 10 06:48:11 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8ADmA3Z020654 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 06:48:11 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8ADmAOc020653 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 06:48:10 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from pop-gadwall.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-gadwall.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.61]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8ADm63W020648 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 06:48:09 -0700 Received: from elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.44]) by pop-gadwall.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EE5iB-00060A-00 for babel-list; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:48:07 -0400 Message-ID: <26477649.1126360087157.JavaMail.root> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:48:07 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Keith Reply-To: Keith To: babel-list Subject: Cheney gets his..... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ http://www.zippyvideos.com/6137923581086576/cheney_090805/original I think the clip is about a minute long and the, um, reaction to Dick is about 2/3's of the way thru it. Enjoy, Keith From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 06:35:59 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8BDZxW5022864 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 06:35:59 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8BDZxDi022863 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 06:35:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from iconn.net ([209.113.151.13]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8BDZslk022856 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 06:35:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:22:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200509110922.AA4239720606> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "dagosta" Reply-To: To: Subject: A fun Google search X-Mailer: Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Go to Google. Type in "failure" Click, "I'm feeling lucky" From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 15:09:08 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8BM98O5006324 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:09:08 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8BM97HK006323 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:09:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8BM96sm006315 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:09:06 -0700 Received: from Lloyd5009 by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.3.) id m.1a2.3bb6b6cb (4426) for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:08:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Lloyd5009 Message-ID: <1a2.3bb6b6cb.305604fa> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:08:58 EDT Subject: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! To: Babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5017 X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Has anyone else given thought to the idea that CBGB's doesn't have to be saved? That maybe even having it pass into but a memory is not a bad thing? Recently walking thru Soho I spotted a couple across the street from Rocks in Your Head (hey, Bob) and the guy was carrying a slick black shopping bag with the CBGB logo in silver. Ugh. It ocurred to me CB's as I know it is already gone. And I went to the save CBGB auction on ebay and the first thing I saw listed was a "girly tee" signed by Tommy Lee. Double ugh. Lisa From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 15:40:42 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8BMegHn007526 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:40:42 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8BMegcg007525 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:40:42 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com (imo-m16.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.206]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8BMeckJ007511 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:40:41 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.3.) id m.fc.1b525563 (3866); Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:40:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:40:31 EDT Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! To: Lloyd5009, babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Lisa- I understand what you're saying. On the other hand, NYC is becoming a gentrified sea of Starbuck's, CVS's, etc. It isn't only CBGB's itself, which is a legendary place, it's the idea of keeping the uniqueness and originality in this city, which is slowly going the way of high rents and bland upscale boutiques and corporate stores. Another pair of designer shoes, anyone? I understand about the shopping bag with the CBGB's logo being a little bit creepy or whatever, but the only way for CB's to generate funds to help them in their legal fight is to sell stuff. I bought a CBGB's shirt and sweartshirt on their web site. Tommy Lee may be a jerk, but if he wants to help, why not? NYC used to be a place where young artists of every genre could come, get a cheap apartment, explore the city and their art relatively cheaply. Now they're lucky if they can get a share with three other people. I realize that in life everything must change, but it's hard to sit still and watch your city mutate into blandness. xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 16:08:23 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8BN8Lgw008083 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:08:23 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8BN8Ljx008082 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:08:21 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [63.240.76.22]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8BN8KF6008074 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:08:20 -0700 Received: from xyz (c-67-180-29-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.180.29.142]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050911230814012002d0hje>; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:08:14 +0000 From: "J" To: Subject: RE: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:08:04 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c5b725$ae10b290$8e1db443> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Incorrect as it may sound, it might be true. One risk of CBGB's continuing is that it becomes something much less than it used to be. At least right now what people will remember of CBGB is one of the finest moments/eras in rock history. That's unlikely to be recreated there, don't you think? On the one hand, I'm distressed that this has become such a vendetta that even after CBGB offered to pay back rent and do fundraising, the landlords still want them out. On the other hand, providing services to the homeless is a pretty essential service, and if that's what will happen with the space, its far different than seeing it turned into another Starbucks. J From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 16:37:46 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8BNbkbB008844 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:37:46 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8BNbkUd008843 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:37:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m15.mx.aol.com (imo-m15.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.205]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8BNbirp008838 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:37:44 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.3.) id m.f5.59804a05 (4418) for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:37:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:37:36 EDT Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ In a message dated 9/11/2005 7:09:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jlregister writes: providing services to the homeless is a pretty essential service I think the agency CBGB's pays rent to already does that, and many feel that because of the skyrocketing real estate market, they're just going to sell it to get the money. I don't know if CB's is "less than it used to be". There are plenty of young bands out there that we haven't heard of, perhaps, who are just starting out, who want a place to play, along with the older acts that come back from time to time. It's the young kids who create the rock history, and I'm sure they have their own groups that they worship right now, playing at CBGB's, just like some of us did with Patti, Television, Ramones, etc. back then. xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 18:16:06 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C1G4Lt011079 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:16:05 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8C1G3eK011078 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:16:03 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mxo3.broadbandsupport.net (mxo3.broadbandsupport.net [209.55.3.83]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C1G1OU011070 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:16:02 -0700 Received: from jackthecat (host-24-225-215-105.patmedia.net [24.225.215.105]) by mxo3.broadbandsupport.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C36E37DF18; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001d01c5b737$732c1400$6401a8c0> From: "jackthecat" To: "J" , References: <000a01c5b725$ae10b290$8e1db443> Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:15:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-broadbandsupportnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-broadbandsupportnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-broadbandsupportnet-MailScanner-From: jackthecat Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I think CBGB's has passed into history, it was what it was....its not what it was.....its an icon, its a designer handbag...bands play there,...the toilets are still shitty....I'd like to see a plaque somewhere over some newer club that is still less commercial than most...Bowery Ballroom??? or some plaque inside, or a street sign outside in honor of CBGB's like Joey got....CB's got behind in the rent....possession is 9/10's of the law but not when the landlord comes calling, the late fees and surcharges in dispute are beside the point, NYU and the big cohones will do what they want...if Hilly had kept up on the rent he might have more sympathy....It was a great wonderful place in the 70's, we've got our videos and our memories......Now we need a landmark preservation sign that here stood CBGB's.....and move on....jackthecat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J" To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 7:08 PM Subject: RE: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! > Incorrect as it may sound, it might be true. One risk of CBGB's > continuing > is that it becomes something much less than it used to be. At least > right > now what people will remember of CBGB is one of the finest moments/eras in > rock history. That's unlikely to be recreated there, don't you think? > > > On the one hand, I'm distressed that this has become such a vendetta that > even after CBGB offered to pay back rent and do fundraising, the landlords > still want them out. On the other hand, providing services to the > homeless > is a pretty essential service, and if that's what will happen with the > space, its far different than seeing it turned into another Starbucks. > > > > J From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 19:12:59 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C2Cx5o012828 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:12:59 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8C2CxR4012827 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:12:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C2Cpqj012812 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:12:58 -0700 Received: from xyz (c-67-180-29-142.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.180.29.142]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050912021244012002lf4ce>; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:12:44 +0000 From: "J" To: Subject: RE: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:12:41 -0700 Message-ID: <001301c5b73f$74d70b40$8e1db443> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id j8C2Cwqj012823 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ According to what I've read, the Bowery Residents Committee (BRC) doesn't actually own the building, so they can't sell it. They have the master lease on it, and CBGB is a sub-lessee. Either BRC intends to expand into the CBGB area (they already run a 24-hour drop-in center and other services upstairs, and I think also run a residential hotel there), or they will rent it out to someone who can pay more rent and generate more revenue for the organization...maybe that will be a Starbuck's, I don't know. I took a look at their website, and BRC is a pretty well established nonprofit that provides emergency shelter, permanent housing and service programs to homeless people, especially those with substance abuse and mental illness. In my offline life, I work with these kinds of programs and organizations, but I'm on the other coast, so I don't know anything about BRC in particular. Their board of directors is made up mostly of folks from corporations, banks, etc. That's not uncommon...most likely they use those connections for fundraising and to provide business expertise to the nonprofit. They certainly have plenty of corporate and foundation donors, but with government programs going down the tubes, that's how these organizations stay alive. Its not the only model -- there are plenty of similar groups that are far more community-based and have a quite different composition on their board. Its hard to tell from just that whether they are doing a good job or not. The range of programs and housing that they run is pretty comprehensive and matches what's known in the homeless services world as a "continuum of care" model that goes from outreach and services to sheler, transitional housing and evenually permanent housing. I have no idea whether they are a good organization; no idea how well paid their director and staff are (although typically such groups don't pay huge salaries); no idea how they relate to other organizations doing similar work. The fact that they have a $30 million budget doesn't tell you too much -- they have a lot of different programs and pull in money from government, foundations, and corporate and individual donors. That's pretty much how these things work -- BRC seems to be pretty established and certainly better off than a lot of similar organizations that operate on much smaller budgets. At the same time, having all those corporate board members and ties certainly has an influence on an organization, even one that's doing good things for homeless people. So its complicated on both sides, and it seems that positions hardened on both sides, nothing good is going to come of this. ___________________________ Jeffrey Levin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list] On Behalf Of Poemsl1 > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:38 PM > To: babel-list > Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! > > > In a message dated 9/11/2005 7:09:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jlregister writes: > > providing services to the homeless > is a pretty essential service > > > I think the agency CBGB's pays rent to already does that, and > many feel that > because of the skyrocketing real estate market, they're just > going to sell > it to get the money. I don't know if CB's is "less than it > used to be". There > are plenty of young bands out there that we haven't heard of, > perhaps, who > are just starting out, who want a place to play, along with > the older acts > that come back from time to time. It's the young kids who > create the rock > history, and I'm sure they have their own groups that they > worship right now, > playing at CBGB's, just like some of us did with Patti, > Television, Ramones, etc. > back then. xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 20:29:54 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C3TrT4014630 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:29:53 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8C3TrfD014629 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:29:53 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web81708.mail.yahoo.com (web81708.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.37.139]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id j8C3TpUa014620 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:29:52 -0700 Received: (qmail 38400 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Sep 2005 03:29:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kFnluExCiBaHO0RG9k4UsusWHMqSRj6VrAo7hthfEcOBB5y1w7OHUqiU4mHGZ1k2HSkB0PqTdNzCfsTrxXoMjeK9LOFtyQ0GbkyN3Ow3TTw14AIp802uWhAuzE9Y+Kv/zuQuTe8oXSszLWZFZpOl3V8aKZw6lu2S9Dl7zJzNlX8= ; Message-ID: <20050912032945.38398.qmail> Received: from [67.124.244.239] by web81708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:29:45 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:29:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Li Lightfoot Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! To: Lloyd5009, Babel-list In-Reply-To: <1a2.3bb6b6cb.305604fa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I couldn't agree with you more - I hate all the CBGB crap you see on fat suburban housewives! YUCK! Let it go... Change is a good thing. LL > Has anyone else given thought to the idea that > CBGB's doesn't have to be > saved? That maybe even having it pass into but a > memory is not a bad thing? > > Recently walking thru Soho I spotted a couple across > the street from Rocks > in Your Head (hey, Bob) and the guy was carrying a > slick black shopping bag > with the CBGB logo in silver. Ugh. It ocurred to > me CB's as I know it is > already gone. > > And I went to the save CBGB auction on ebay and the > first thing I saw listed > was a "girly tee" signed by Tommy Lee. Double ugh. > > Lisa From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 20:57:07 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C3v6i5015369 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:57:07 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8C3v6pw015368 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:57:06 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C3v49J015360 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:57:05 -0700 Received: from 204.127.205.145 ([204.127.205.145]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050912035700013004ptdbe>; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:57:00 +0000 Received: from [67.183.11.251] by 204.127.205.145; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:56:59 +0000 From: PageRox93 To: Poemsl1, Lloyd5009, babel-list Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:56:59 +0000 Message-Id: <091220050356.19846.4324FC8B0007526900004D862200762302CCC79801AD0A090EAF> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: UGFnZVJveDkzQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I had to put my 2c in here about Tommy Lee....he may be dumber than a box of rocks, but I still think he's a babe!!!! ;-) I'm not in NY so I can't see this CB's shit for myself--nor have I ever!--but I believe it should be preserved. Even if its 'not the same'--things change. But do they need to change to beige all the time???!!! I'm sick of gentrification in my own city. My old tavern--the one that launched Nirvana, Sound Garden, Alice In Chains--etc etc--is still 'there', but its not. It got sold and since its an historical site, the outside remains the same, but it now has a full bar and looks just like the singles bar 2 doors down from the inside. And I've never been in there since the old regime changed. There is something to be said for preserving even shitholes, under the same management and booking. They've got history. Tommy Lee's easy on the eyes and I think he's also got his heart in the right place if he's making money to save CBs. I do think its a worthwhile venture and I agree with Seena on this one. XO-Glenna -------------- Original message -------------- > Lisa- I understand what you're saying. On the other hand, NYC is becoming a > gentrified sea of Starbuck's, CVS's, etc. It isn't only CBGB's itself, which > is a legendary place, it's the idea of keeping the uniqueness and > originality in this city, which is slowly going the way of high rents and bland > upscale > boutiques and corporate stores. Another pair of designer shoes, anyone? I > understand about the shopping bag with the CBGB's logo being a little bit > creepy or whatever, but the only way for CB's to generate funds to help them in > their legal fight is to sell stuff. I bought a CBGB's shirt and sweartshirt > on their web site. Tommy Lee may be a jerk, but if he wants to help, why not? > NYC used to be a place where young artists of every genre could come, get a > cheap apartment, explore the city and their art relatively cheaply. Now > they're lucky if they can get a share with three other people. I realize that > in > life everything must change, but it's hard to sit still and watch your city > mutate into blandness. xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 20:57:08 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C3v8Rf015376 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:57:08 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8C3v8tJ015375 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:57:08 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C3v7Ar015363 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:57:07 -0700 Received: from 204.127.205.145 ([204.127.205.145]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050912035702012002cu18e>; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:57:02 +0000 Received: from [67.183.11.251] by 204.127.205.145; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:57:01 +0000 From: PageRox93 To: Poemsl1, Lloyd5009, babel-list Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:57:01 +0000 Message-Id: <091220050357.19990.4324FC8D000099D900004E162200762302CCC79801AD0A090EAF> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: UGFnZVJveDkzQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I had to put my 2c in here about Tommy Lee....he may be dumber than a box of rocks, but I still think he's a babe!!!! ;-) I'm not in NY so I can't see this CB's shit for myself--nor have I ever!--but I believe it should be preserved. Even if its 'not the same'--things change. But do they need to change to beige all the time???!!! I'm sick of gentrification in my own city. My old tavern--the one that launched Nirvana, Sound Garden, Alice In Chains--etc etc--is still 'there', but its not. It got sold and since its an historical site, the outside remains the same, but it now has a full bar and looks just like the singles bar 2 doors down from the inside. And I've never been in there since the old regime changed. There is something to be said for preserving even shitholes, under the same management and booking. They've got history. Tommy Lee's easy on the eyes and I think he's also got his heart in the right place if he's making money to save CBs. I do think its a worthwhile venture and I agree with Seena on this one. XO-Glenna -------------- Original message -------------- > Lisa- I understand what you're saying. On the other hand, NYC is becoming a > gentrified sea of Starbuck's, CVS's, etc. It isn't only CBGB's itself, which > is a legendary place, it's the idea of keeping the uniqueness and > originality in this city, which is slowly going the way of high rents and bland > upscale > boutiques and corporate stores. Another pair of designer shoes, anyone? I > understand about the shopping bag with the CBGB's logo being a little bit > creepy or whatever, but the only way for CB's to generate funds to help them in > their legal fight is to sell stuff. I bought a CBGB's shirt and sweartshirt > on their web site. Tommy Lee may be a jerk, but if he wants to help, why not? > NYC used to be a place where young artists of every genre could come, get a > cheap apartment, explore the city and their art relatively cheaply. Now > they're lucky if they can get a share with three other people. I realize that > in > life everything must change, but it's hard to sit still and watch your city > mutate into blandness. xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 21:05:25 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C45O2C015627 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:05:24 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8C45OHM015626 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:05:24 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com (imo-m25.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C45LPV015619 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:05:22 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.3.) id i.1f9.11e30f01 (3850); Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:05:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: <1f9.11e30f01.30565875> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:05:09 EDT Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! To: PageRox93, babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I think he's a babe, too, Glenna! ;) xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 21:22:43 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C4MesR016101 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:22:43 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8C4MeYB016100 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:22:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C4McEo016092 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:22:39 -0700 Received: from 204.127.205.145 ([204.127.205.145]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20050912042239013004suqge>; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 04:22:39 +0000 Received: from [67.183.11.251] by 204.127.205.145; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 04:22:37 +0000 From: PageRox93 To: Poemsl1, babel-list Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 04:22:37 +0000 Message-Id: <091220050422.3911.4325028D000B6E9900000F472200762302CCC79801AD0A090EAF> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: UGFnZVJveDkzQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Damn straight!!! And I think he's got a heart, too. More power to the 'girly tee'----where's the panties is what I wanna know! ;-) Uh.....speaking of...heart....?! :-D XOXO-Glenna -------------- Original message -------------- I think he's a babe, too, Glenna! ;) xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 23:29:37 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C6Tb8r019023 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:29:37 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8C6TaRl019022 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:29:36 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com (imo-m18.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.208]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C6TZGP019014 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:29:36 -0700 Received: from Oligodendroglia by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.3.) id m.1f3.11c37964 (4380) for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:29:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Oligodendroglia Message-ID: <1f3.11c37964.30567a47> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:29:27 EDT Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! To: Babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5119 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ As much as I also believe that change can be a good thing and that we can all move on to new ... and who knows... perhaps, more exciting situations (never know what's around that corner - good or bad ) ... I will never forget the first time I walked down to14th street from Irving Place and saw the spot where the Palladium once stood, and now turned into a New York University dorm... My heart sank. Deep down inside .... my soul was crying.... I wondered if the residents of that dorm could still... occasionally hear echoes of what took place within that space that was once known as the palladium.... Its actually fascinating how cities evolve... I think I had read at the Bowery Ballroom's website that the space it occupies was once some kind of retail discount clothing store... or something like taht... hey... maybe someday... our grandkids will buy back the space that CB's occupied (I'm already speaking in the past tense) and start up a new club with a new name... that will spark a new revolution.... hmmmm... Let it go... Change is a good thing. LL > Has anyone else given thought to the idea that > CBGB's doesn't have to be > saved? That maybe even having it pass into but a > memory is not a bad thing? > > Recently walking thru Soho I spotted a couple across > the street from Rocks > in Your Head (hey, Bob) and the guy was carrying a > slick black shopping bag > with the CBGB logo in silver. Ugh. It ocurred to > me CB's as I know it is > already gone. > > And I went to the save CBGB auction on ebay and the > first thing I saw listed > was a "girly tee" signed by Tommy Lee. Double ugh. > > Lisa From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 11 23:35:50 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C6ZoOi019335 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:35:50 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8C6Zobu019334 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:35:50 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8C6Znd1019324 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:35:49 -0700 Received: from Oligodendroglia by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.3.) id m.e6.713f8b28 (4380) for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:35:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Oligodendroglia Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:35:41 EDT Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect- don't throw anything! To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5119 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ As much as I also believe that change can be a good thing and that we can all move on to new ... and who knows... perhaps, more exciting situations (never know what's around that corner - good or bad ) ... I will never forget the first time I walked down to14th street from Irving Place and saw the spot where the Palladium once stood, and now turned into a New York University dorm... My heart sank. Deep down inside .... my soul was crying.... I wondered if the residents of that dorm could still... occasionally hear echoes of what took place within that space that was once known as the palladium.... Its actually fascinating how cities evolve... I think I had read at the Bowery Ballroom's website that the space it occupies was once some kind of retail discount clothing store... or something like taht... hey... maybe someday... our grandkids will buy back the space that CB's occupied (I'm already speaking in the past tense) and start up a new club with a new name... that will spark a new revolution.... hmmmm... > Has anyone else given thought to the idea that > CBGB's doesn't have to be > saved? That maybe even having it pass into but a > memory is not a bad thing? > > Recently walking thru Soho I spotted a couple across > the street from Rocks > in Your Head (hey, Bob) and the guy was carrying a > slick black shopping bag > with the CBGB logo in silver. Ugh. It ocurred to > me CB's as I know it is > already gone. > > And I went to the save CBGB auction on ebay and the > first thing I saw listed > was a "girly tee" signed by Tommy Lee. Double ugh. > > Lisa From babel-list-owner Mon Sep 12 06:10:47 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8CDAkGJ028744 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:10:46 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8CDAkSG028743 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:10:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.43]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8CDAj0H028737 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:10:45 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (cpe-24-174-25-9.houston.res.rr.com [24.174.25.9]) by ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j8CDAg9D022750 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:10:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004701c5b79b$608b8f60$0919ae18> From: "rslovacek" To: References: <091220050422.3911.4325028D000B6E9900000F472200762302CCC79801AD0A090EAF> Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:10:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Uhhhhh, don't expect us two-headed guys to try to keep track of any of you gals' panties. If you don't wear any, that worry's gone! ----- Original Message ----- From: PageRox93 To: Poemsl1 ; babel-list Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:22 PM Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect-please don't throw anything! Damn straight!!! And I think he's got a heart, too. More power to the 'girly tee'----where's the panties is what I wanna know! ;-) Uh.....speaking of...heart....?! :-D XOXO-Glenna -------------- Original message -------------- I think he's a babe, too, Glenna! ;) xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Mon Sep 12 06:14:00 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8CDE05x028889 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:14:00 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8CDE0mV028888 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:14:00 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from iconn.net ([209.113.151.13]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8CDDvgX028878 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:13:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:01:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200509120901.AA3689807902> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "dagosta" Reply-To: To: Subject: Helping New Orleans Artists X-Mailer: Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Tipitina's, the heart of the New Orleans music community (much like CBs is/was to New York), established a foundation in 2002 to preserve the musical culture of New Orleans. They are now using the foundation to help New Orleans musicians get back on their feet. http://www.tipitinas.com/default.asp http://www.tipsevents.com/foundation/content/20050909.htm From babel-list-owner Mon Sep 12 10:07:52 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8CH7nJq002832 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:07:52 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8CH7mYe002831 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:07:48 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8CH7hjp002823 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:07:47 -0700 Received: from MichelRB52 by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.3.) id m.e5.1b747705 (4214) for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:07:34 -0400 (EDT) From: MichelRB52 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:07:33 EDT Subject: Re: babel-digest V10 #204 To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 2340 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ with what is going on all over our home (earth) its such a minor thing; this CBGB's embroilment. People People People! POWER TO THE PEOPLE Music will ALWAYS find a place inside outide, light, dark, in an arena,a club or in the park where we will learn new sounds new ideas, stay fresh. have no fear music is eternal. my 2 cent worth. ------------------------------ We are vain and we are blind I hate people when they're not polite ------------------------------ memento avere, memento mori From babel-list-owner Mon Sep 12 21:24:38 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8D4OaaQ018594 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:24:38 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8D4OZKW018593 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:24:35 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8D4OYDD018588 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:24:34 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (cpe-24-174-25-9.houston.res.rr.com [24.174.25.9]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j8D4OVHA014605 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:24:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00f901c5b81b$0a7143b0$0919ae18> From: "rslovacek" To: References: <000a01c5b725$ae10b290$8e1db443> <001d01c5b737$732c1400$6401a8c0> Subject: NPR: We shall be together, Forever Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:24:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Or as Gertrude Stein may have hummed into Willie the Shakes' ear, "But a CBGB's by an other name..." Fillmore closed. Fillmore East closed. Yellow Dog closed. Winterland closed (and what a great DVD the Dead made of THAT! VERY recommended!). Love street closed. Even the Armadildo World Headquarters and Mother Earth closed. But the music continues. (I wonder what Patti songs the Dead and other-enders have done???) --Bob "The wheel is turning and you can't slow down You can't let go and you can't hold on You can't go back and you can't stand still If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will Won't you try just a little bit harder? Couldn't you try just a little bit more? Won't you try just a little bit harder? Couldn't you try just a little bit more? Round round robin run around Gott get back where you belong Little bit harder, just a little bit more Little bit farther than you than you've gone before The wheel is turning and you can't slow down You can't let go and you can't hold on You can't go back and you can't stand still If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will ..." From babel-list-owner Mon Sep 12 22:16:38 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8D5GcTS019407 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:16:38 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8D5GbD8019406 for babel-list-obscured; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:16:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8D5GZhB019401 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:16:36 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.3.) id h.204.9edd9ad (3924); Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:16:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: <204.9edd9ad.3057baa9> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:16:25 EDT Subject: Re: NPR: We shall be together, Forever To: rslovacek, babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Max's Kansas City closed, too. Even Patti, at her concert at CBGB's on May 1, said something like, "If they close CBGB's, then there'll be another place to play." (not a direct quote). And it's true. But that doesn't mean we can't still fight for the places we love. xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 14 09:16:38 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8EGGbi7008878 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:16:38 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8EGGbh6008877 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:16:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8EGGYUR008869 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:16:35 -0700 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hkQQJXBSg8tx7dKtJc8BkGoKC8c31OEtfaKYRM+y63kUxHW6Iv9IUQ9+kwu4vAAT; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [65.102.161.35] (helo=dennis) by smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EFZw6-0006Mh-ME for babel-list; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:16:39 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Dennis Moore" To: "Babel List" Subject: "Parting The Waters" Katrina Benefit (patti content only if she is part of what is euphemistically refered to as 'more') Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:16:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcW5R7HAObx4XIegQgqCPlykyYlQZw== Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: 5bcb83257d183b67dcbcc662d868a8a77e972de0d01da940b11b54e9a615ef12fc9e152b77e8a4da350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.102.161.35 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id j8EGGZUR008870 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Euphemistically Parting the Waters The New Yorker presents an evening of words and music from New Orleans and the Delta to benefit Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. Tickets cost $250, $100, and $50. The New Yorker will donate a hundred per cent of ticket-sale proceeds from this event to the American Red Cross Hurricane Relief Fund, and Condi Nast Publications, Inc., will match the donation. Readings and performances by Woody Allen, Buckwheat Zydeco, Patricia Clarkson, Elvis Costello, Willem Dafoe, David Byrne and the Les Misirables Brass Band, Richard Ford, Gary Louris and Mark Olson from the Jayhawks, Leigh (Little Queenie) Harris, Kevin Kline, Toni Morrison, Mary-Louise Parker, Queen Ida and Her Zydeco Band, the ReBirth Brass Band, Lou Reed, Allen Toussaint, Calvin Trillin, and more. Additional readers and musicians will be announced later on newyorker.com. Tickets are available now at ticketmaster.com, at all Ticketmaster outlets, or by phone: 877-391-0545. Tickets are also available at the Town Hall box office. September 24, 7:30 p.m. New York, N.Y. Town Hall 123 West 43rd St. 877-391-0545 http://www.newyorker.com/online/events/articles/050919onev_events From babel-list-owner Sat Sep 17 13:57:09 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8HKv8A3029126 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:57:09 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8HKv8Uw029125 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:57:08 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end1.KRONOS.COM (front-end1.kronos.com [158.228.2.31]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8HKv4ac029117 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:57:07 -0700 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end1.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:56:59 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Dandy Warhols Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:52:18 -0400 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Dandy Warhols Thread-Index: AcW7ybD0B7QI8uhORoCRCgNwdAUWpg== From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "babel-list" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2005 20:56:59.0825 (UTC) FILETIME=[58D7C210:01C5BBCA] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I went to the DW concert last night and they were really good. Before the show the PA played some Television songs and my friend and I got to talking about Tom Verlaine, and I was wondering about his status with respect to the Patti Smith Group. It sounds like he's playing with them some concerts these days, and not at other concerts. Does anybody know more? It seems like he really does a great job of filling in their sound when he plays with the group. - Mitch From babel-list-owner Sat Sep 17 21:24:44 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8I4Ogxc008015 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:24:44 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8I4OgiJ008013 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:24:42 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8I4OfTh008008 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:24:41 -0700 Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0440F13AAC4 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from spamtony) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id j8I4Oc727097 for babel-list; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200509180424.j8I4Oc727097> Subject: Re: Cheney gets his..... Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:24:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" Cc: babel-list In-Reply-To: Reply-To: spamtony (Anthony J. Rzepela) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5+IMAP PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Keith (kaj22) wrote: > > http://www.zippyvideos.com/6137923581086576/cheney_090805/original > > I think the clip is about a minute long and the, um, reaction > to Dick is about 2/3's of the way thru it. So, anyone want to "do" Ralph Nader? I mean, that man deserves a hand, too. He's way more culpable for our current situation than Dick Cheney is... From babel-list-owner Sat Sep 17 22:06:13 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8I56Dku008976 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:06:13 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8I56Dgs008974 for babel-list-obscured; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:06:13 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8I56BXv008963 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:06:12 -0700 Received: from Poemsl1 by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id m.f5.59ff9d64 (4254) for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 01:06:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Poemsl1 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 01:06:03 EDT Subject: Re: Cheney gets his..... To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ You mean instead of "pieing" them, the new thing is to "f-you" them? Sounds cool.... xxo- Seena From babel-list-owner Sun Sep 18 05:41:35 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8ICfXrV026812 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 05:41:35 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8ICfXIw026811 for babel-list-obscured; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 05:41:33 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from nessie.crosslink.net (smmsp [206.246.124.31]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8ICfVto026804 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 05:41:32 -0700 Received: from DFL67R61.crosslink.net (dial052.northumberland.248.crosslink.net [209.147.70.71]) by nessie.crosslink.net (8.12.3/) with ESMTP id j8ICfSaI007829 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:41:29 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050918084021.01e7c970> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:41:26 -0400 To: babel-list From: Phil Grabar Subject: Patti nominated - again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Rock Hall Snubs 1980 09/16/2005 5:41 PM, E! Online Sarah Hall Apparently, 1980 just wasn't a rockin' year. In the way of the music world, acts that have seen 25 years elapse since the release of their first record become eligible to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. However, the Rock Hall nominating committee snubbed the newly eligible class of 1980 entirely, seemingly unable to find a band worthy of putting on the ballot sent out to voters this week. That left room for perennial nominees such as Black Sabbath (now on their eighth bid), Lynyd Skynyrd (seventh bid), the Sex Pistols and the Stooges (five bids apiece). Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five, which last year became the first rap act nominated to the Rock Hall, has another chance this year to become the first rap act inducted. Other holdovers from previous years include the J. Geils Band, John Mellencamp, the Patti Smith Group, Chic and Joe Tex. First-time nominees to the eclectic ballot include Miles Davis, Cat Stevens, Blondie, the Paul Butterfield Band, the Dave Clark Five and the Sir Douglas Quintet. The 2006 induction ceremony will be held in New York, though no other details have been released. Inductees will be announced before the end of the year. Davis, known for his jazz mastery, may seem an odd choice for the Rock Hall. However, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame CEO Terry Stewart, who also sits on the nominating committee, said that Davis influenced many rockers musically and in terms of his attitude. The trumpet player was born in Alton, Illinois, and raised in St. Louis. From the 1940s until his 1991 death from pneumonia, respiratory failure and a stroke at age 65, he pushed the limits of jazz, experimenting with everything from bebop to jazz fusion and beyond. Stevens, who is now known by the name Yusuf Islam, sold scads of his gentle folk ballads in the 1960s and '70s, including "Moonshadow," "Peace Train" and "Wild World." In 1977, the singer abandoned his musical career and became a Muslim. Last fall, he was deported from the United States after his name popped up on a federal no-fly list while he was on a plane bound from London to Washington D.C. New wave rockers Blondie, led by Debbie Harry, topped the charts in the late '70s and early '80s with hits such as "Heart of Glass" and "Call Me." The Paul Butterfield Band, led by harmonica-blowing singer Paul Butterfield, earned a place in musical immortality when the blues band backed Bob Dylan at the Newport Folk Festival in 1965. Butterfield died of a heroin overdose in 1987. Disco scenesters Chic scored their first massive hit in 1977 with "Dance, Dance, Dance." Frontman Nile Rodgers later went on to produce hits for artists including Madonna, Debbie Harry and David Bowie. The Dave Clark Five was a wildly successful British Invasion band in the 1960s with 24 hit records Stateside, including "Over and Over" and "I Like It Like That." In the height of the band's fame, the Dave Clark made a record 13 appearances on the Ed Sullivan Show before breaking up in the early 1970s. The J. Geils Band came together in Boston in 1967 and scored hits such as "Must of Got Lost" and "Give It to Me" in the '70s before rising to the top of the charts in 1981 with the catchy teen-obsession anthem "Centerfold." Other hits include "Freeze Frame" and "Love Stinks." Heartland singer Mellencamp, known for his numerous Top 10 singles such as "Jack and Diane," "Hurst So Good" and "Pink Houses," released his first album in 1976 and cofounded Farm Aid with Willie Nelson. The Sir Douglas Quintet was formed in San Antonio in the 1960s and scored a 1965 hit single, "She's About a Mover." Frontman Doug Sahm died in 1999 of heart failure. The Patti Smith Group was signed to Arista by Clive Davis and released its first album, Horses, in 1975. The group's no-frills approach to rock paved the way for the punk movement that followed. Tex was a soul singer, who scored his biggest hit with 1972's "I Gotcha." He converted to Islam that same year and changed his name to Joseph Hazziez . He died in 1982. Nominees are picked by a 70-member committee of rock 'n' roll historians, journalists and label execs, with ballots then mailed to an international voting body of 700 music industry types for the final decision. The five to seven nominees that receive the most votes will be inducted into the Rock Hall next year. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 20 17:52:11 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8L0qAZs026322 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:52:11 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8L0qAVR026321 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:52:10 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.204]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8L0q8TW026312 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:52:09 -0700 Received: from stheno-xp.optonline.net (ool-18bc22a3.dyn.optonline.net [24.188.34.163]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.06 (built May 11 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IN5003OQ6EMKZ00> for babel-list; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:50:21 -0400 From: Risa Subject: Patti and U2? X-Sender: stheno To: babel-list Message-id: <4.3.2.7.2.20050920204704.01d587f0> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Well I received an update from Pollstar saying Patti Smith is playing November 21 and 22, in NY. With U2 at the Garden. Nothing is on pattismith.net. Is this real or is it another mixup with Patti Smyth?(sp?) From babel-list-owner Tue Sep 20 21:59:06 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8L4x6Fj032571 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:59:06 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8L4x6jI032570 for babel-list-obscured; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:59:06 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [63.240.76.22]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8L4x3g7032557 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:59:05 -0700 Received: from [24.18.106.145] (c-24-18-106-145.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[24.18.106.145]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005092104585801200qoc90e>; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:58:58 +0000 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20050920204704.01d587f0> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20050920204704.01d587f0> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <70df05f9ae785818d93c52762d553430> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: babel-list From: Marilyn Turnbow Subject: Re: Patti and U2? Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:01:15 -0700 To: Risa X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ My guess is it's just really early on Pollstar so tix haven't gone on sale. That would be a cool show, but the Garden? Man, that's a long way from seeing Patti at the 9:30 in DC..... I did find this info searching venues and Madison Square Garden.... btw, I don't think Patti Smyth is doing much in the music dept. these days aye? Isn't she raisin' rugrats with that tennis star? Marilyn in Olympia On Sep 20, 2005, at 5:50 PM, Risa wrote: > Well I received an update from Pollstar saying Patti Smith is playing > November 21 and 22, in NY. With U2 at the Garden. Nothing is on > pattismith.net. Is this real or is it another mixup with Patti > Smyth?(sp?) From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 21 02:56:25 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8L9uNlB008118 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:56:25 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8L9uMkC008117 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:56:22 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8L9uKdk008111 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:56:21 -0700 Received: from AGerst1574 by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id m.54.4ceea392 (16781) for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 05:56:10 -0400 (EDT) From: AGerst1574 Message-ID: <54.4ceea392.3062883a> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 05:56:10 EDT Subject: Re: Patti and U2 To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5016 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ It is the real Patti Smith that we know and love and tickets have been on sale for eons. Of course they are sold out but if you want to get in you will. I have tickets for U2 in October and Kean is opening up. What a joke. From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 21 06:46:08 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LDk7nm015905 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:46:08 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8LDk7Tw015900 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:46:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m15.mx.aol.com (imo-m15.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.205]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LDk5sO015893 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:46:05 -0700 Received: from RNRBARRY by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id m.84.4e2aff71 (14374) for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:45:56 -0400 (EDT) From: RNRBARRY Message-ID: <84.4e2aff71.3062be13> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:45:55 EDT Subject: U2 To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5016 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ The U2 site lists Patti for the two MSG shows in November 21/22. Another act is opening for U2 at MSG in October. From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 21 08:11:54 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LFBsvw018541 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:11:54 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8LFBs8a018540 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:11:54 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LFBq9O018535 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:11:53 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (cpe-24-174-17-194.houston.res.rr.com [24.174.17.194]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j8LFBpRa015380 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:11:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002b01c5bebe$cb76ee80$c211ae18> From: "rslovacek" Cc: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20050920204704.01d587f0> <70df05f9ae785818d93c52762d553430> Subject: Re: Patti and U2? Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:11:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Rugrats, McEnroe, Smyth, yeppers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn Turnbow To: Risa Cc: babel-list Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:01 AM Subject: Re: Patti and U2? My guess is it's just really early on Pollstar so tix haven't gone on sale. That would be a cool show, but the Garden? Man, that's a long way from seeing Patti at the 9:30 in DC..... I did find this info searching venues and Madison Square Garden.... btw, I don't think Patti Smyth is doing much in the music dept. these days aye? Isn't she raisin' rugrats with that tennis star? Marilyn in Olympia On Sep 20, 2005, at 5:50 PM, Risa wrote: > Well I received an update from Pollstar saying Patti Smith is playing > November 21 and 22, in NY. With U2 at the Garden. Nothing is on > pattismith.net. Is this real or is it another mixup with Patti > Smyth?(sp?) From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 21 08:09:53 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LF9rgQ018451 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:09:53 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8LF9req018450 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:09:53 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LF9pld018444 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:09:52 -0700 Received: from Bob2 (cpe-24-174-17-194.houston.res.rr.com [24.174.17.194]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j8LF9me2024686 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:09:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001801c5bebe$8202c350$c211ae18> From: "rslovacek" To: References: <84.4e2aff71.3062be13> Subject: Re: U2 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:09:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Far out! U2's opening for Patti :) Hey, any of ya'll going to any of the Cream concerts in October? ----- Original Message ----- From: RNRBARRY To: babel-list Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: U2 The U2 site lists Patti for the two MSG shows in November 21/22. Another act is opening for U2 at MSG in October. From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 21 13:02:18 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LK2IUb027734 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:02:18 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8LK2IHH027733 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:02:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LK2E9J027725 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:02:16 -0700 Received: from Lloyd5009 by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r5.5.) id m.d9.2e4d46bc (48552) for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:02:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Lloyd5009 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:02:01 EDT Subject: Re: Patti and U2? To: Babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5016 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Rugrats? Shouldn't they be teenie boppers by now? From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 21 13:34:40 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LKYeqm028973 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:34:40 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8LKYeRo028972 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:34:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [63.240.76.22]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LKYccR028967 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:34:39 -0700 Received: from Gateway503GR (c-24-63-251-116.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[24.63.251.116]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005092120343401200qqo54e>; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:34:34 +0000 Message-ID: <009801c5beeb$df0b7830$74fb3f18> From: "ggull" To: "babel-list" References: Subject: Re: Dandy Warhols -- and now in Boston Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:34:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gart, Mitchell" >I went to the DW concert last night and they were really good. I just saw in the Boston Globe today that they're at the Paradise November 30. Tix on sale saturday at noon -- do I really need to get them now? From babel-list-owner Wed Sep 21 13:42:26 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LKgPka029238 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:42:25 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8LKgPcA029237 for babel-list-obscured; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:42:25 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end1.KRONOS.COM (front-end1.kronos.com [158.228.2.31]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8LKgNJ7029229 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:42:24 -0700 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end1.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:42:24 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: Dandy Warhols -- and now in Boston Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:42:10 -0400 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Dandy Warhols -- and now in Boston Thread-Index: AcW+7FYy0+uyqOKcRreXYt982+KRvgAAHkKg From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "ggull" , "babel-list" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2005 20:42:25.0027 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9132D30:01C5BEEC] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id j8LKgOJ7029233 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Damn, I drove all the way up to New Hampshire. The blurb when I bought tix said something like "only appearance in New England". Oh well, the show was fun. - Mitch > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list]On Behalf Of ggull > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:35 PM > To: babel-list > Subject: Re: Dandy Warhols -- and now in Boston > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gart, Mitchell" > > > >I went to the DW concert last night and they were really good. > > I just saw in the Boston Globe today that they're at the > Paradise November > 30. > Tix on sale saturday at noon -- do I really need to get them now? 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From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 22 13:41:03 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8MKf1EJ006701 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:41:02 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8MKf19m006700 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:41:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web53514.mail.yahoo.com (web53514.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.68]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id j8MKexB7006691 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:41:00 -0700 Received: (qmail 35442 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2005 20:40:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uWR+DQZLa4WNuxJGlx4mt5Ovp0cCSJmH9Q1FmD+8R28ZWnseF7xWnf/H1M3eWsPK+tUrI7NAcKz1RuYxWpbjbXbE8mq0odPw0S7sDgan/pH6u8qJ/JzDKOFu+zsZi4LlxWcgD2ezjLgW1j6t4NsiKU+BxFEml1AwWNSQJgxgD+8= ; Message-ID: <20050922204056.35440.qmail> Received: from [64.8.215.162] by web53514.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:40:55 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:40:55 -0700 (PDT) From: jillian c Subject: Re: babel-digest V10 #210 To: MichelRB52, babel-list In-Reply-To: <206.9fc8712.30646840> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ What does this post mean? If Patti & Iggy are playing together soon, egad...!!!! MichelRB52 wrote: best show Patti and Iggy coming soon???? --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From babel-list-owner Thu Sep 22 13:52:24 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8MKqOZI006974 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:52:24 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8MKqOkT006973 for babel-list-obscured; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:52:24 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from Front-end2.KRONOS.COM (front-end2.kronos.com [158.228.2.30]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8MKqM31006968 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:52:23 -0700 Received: from exchg-f.KRONOS.COM ([158.228.0.199]) by Front-end2.KRONOS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:52:19 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: babel-digest V10 #210 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:52:16 -0400 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: babel-digest V10 #210 Thread-Index: AcW/tkRqxzKbuc4rQR6jIaZNoRRnrQAATtMA From: "Gart, Mitchell" To: "jillian c" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2005 20:52:19.0017 (UTC) FILETIME=[85889B90:01C5BFB7] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penguin.postmodern.com id j8MKqN31006969 Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Yeah that's about the coolest show imaginable! - Mitch > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-babel-list > [mailto:owner-babel-list]On Behalf Of jillian c > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:41 PM > To: MichelRB52; babel-list > Subject: Re: babel-digest V10 #210 > > > What does this post mean? > If Patti & Iggy are playing together soon, egad...!!!! > > MichelRB52 wrote: > best show Patti and Iggy coming soon???? > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From babel-list-owner Fri Sep 23 07:33:15 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8NEXF0g001951 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:33:15 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8NEXFio001949 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:33:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.108]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with SMTP id j8NEXCCV001941 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:33:14 -0700 Received: (qmail 17912 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Sep 2005 14:33:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GyWeb6RKJuRVFLeUiKjWIn2N3ObGdZ2npAA2leKnv5lqx4IxT9ZgjTNJzt+fKTPZLaMgrfIFyAaVEG4GJyLSOxaBzpXtvIQEESwhv3QOSk+szGsP1h3RrR7fMdZovAzuOQDE2mGZ4GK7soi+2WlzA85bCBo5wdh75tQ0Vbvsef4= ; Message-ID: <20050923143308.17910.qmail> Received: from [194.109.31.246] by web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:33:08 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:33:08 -0700 (PDT) From: weronika Subject: looking for you video To: babel-list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ Hi! on http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/patti_smith/videos.jhtml you can find the video for "looking for you (i was)". a very beautiful and simple thing it is. best wishes, weronika (poland) --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From babel-list-owner Fri Sep 23 07:46:03 2005 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (penguin.postmodern.com [127.0.0.1]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8NEk3tV002313 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:46:03 -0700 Received: (from majordom) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j8NEk3WG002312 for babel-list-obscured; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:46:03 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.postmodern.com: majordom set sender to owner-babel-list using -f Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id j8NEjxft002288 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:46:01 -0700 Received: from 204.127.205.142 (smailcenter68.comcast.net[204.127.205.168]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005092314455301100pj5dte>; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:45:54 +0000 Received: from [67.183.11.251] by 204.127.205.142; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:45:53 +0000 From: PageRox93 To: weronika Cc: babel-list Subject: Re: looking for you video Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:45:53 +0000 Message-Id: <092320051445.2493.43341521000A33CB000009BD2207020653CCC79801AD0A090EAF> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: UGFnZVJveDkzQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-babel-list Precedence: bulk X-List-Processor: Majordomo 1.94.5 X-List-Archive-Location: http://www.postmodern.com/~babel/ I have that video--it IS very charming...makes me cry during the Fred scenes though.....thanks for the link. XO-Glenna/Seattle PS--Poland?! Wow--what's that like? It must be cold there now. And in the middle of the night there as I write this at almost 8AM! How odd, eh? Patti unites us all! :-D -------------- Original message -------------- > Hi! > > on http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/patti_smith/videos.jhtml you can find the video > for "looking for you (i was)". a very beautiful and simple thing it is. > > best wishes, > weronika (poland) > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. 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