Re: REM boring?

[Christopher Niquet <section.musicale>]

le 5/07/00 16:09, Rob Baker à rob a écrit :

> In message <B588DE12.297%section.musicale>, Christopher Niquet
> <section.musicale> writes
>>> THIS IS FINALLY NOT HAPPENING. CHAN TOLD ME THAT PATTI PREFERED TO PLAY WITH
>> MUCHAEL STIPE FROM REM INSTEAD OF HER; THIS IS JUST TOO BAD. BY THE WAY I
>> DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, REM'S MUSIC IS JUST SO BAD AND BORING, WHAT DO YOU GUYS
>> THINK ABOUT IT?
> 
> Any reason why you think this? REM are one of the most innovative and
> challenging acts around at the moment. OK, so you may think they are
> boring, but perhaps that says a lot about the current state of the music
> scene. 
> 
> REM have never made an album that sounds like the last. 'Up' was one of
> the best albums of 1998 and opened the band up to a whole new audience.
> The subsequent tour was one of their most successful ever. Their refusal
> to pander to hype and record company constraints has been a major key to
> their success over the last 20 years and is undoubtably the reason why
> they continue to command such a large degree of respect from industry
> people, critics and consumers alike after all this time. Most bands of
> their age tend to resign themselves to peddling out the same old tired
> formula over and over again simply because it sells records. REM don't
> live up to that ideal. If that makes them boring, then so be it. I'd be
> interested to know what you consider NOT to be boring.
> 
> REM and Patti Smith love and respect one another - Stipe got into rock
> music through hearing 'Horses'. He helped Patti through some tough
> times. Last year, they played several dates together whenever their
> respective tours crossed paths. In my experience, a great number of REM
> fans love Patti Smith (I for one), and vice versa. They both make
> quality music for intelligent, passionate people.
> 
> So I'm biased, yeah. I also respect your opinion (you're a Patti fan, so
> you can't be all bad ;-) ). I just cannot agree with you on this one at
> all. Sorry.

WELL, TO ME REM'S MUSIC IS COMPLETELY RADIO FORMATED. WEREAS PATTI'S IS
SOMETHING THAT IS NOT WORKING AND CONSIDERING RUELS. REM IS COMPLETELY
PLAYING THE GAME, WHEREAS PATTI IS NOT. AND I REALLY THINK THAT THE
RADIO/MASS MARKET FORMATED MUSIC WON'T STAY WHEREAS TRUE ORIGINALS WILL.
AND I THINK THEIR IS A LOT OF BANDS THAT WERE INSPIRED BY PATTI SMITH ND THE
MIDDLE 70 MUSIC SCENE, GOOD ONES AND BAD ONES TOO. IT IS NOT BECAUSE YOU
LIKE A GIFTED MUSICIAN THAT YOU CAN BE A GOOD ONE TOO.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT THIS IS NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE A PTTI SMITH FAN THAT YOU
ARE NECESSARELY INTELLIGENT (EVEN IF IT HELPS).
SMOG, CYNTHIA DALL, CAT POWER, NICK DRAKE, SONIC YOUTH, COUNTRY TEASERS,
NICO AMONG OTHERS ARE PEOPLE  I DON'T CONSIDER BORING. THEY ARE ORIGINALS.
CHEERS
CHRISTOPHER