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Re: [bomp] Fender Princeton Reverb amps
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- Subject: Re: [bomp] Fender Princeton Reverb amps
- From: Bob Widenhofer <bwidenhofer@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 07:16:33 -0800 (PST)
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Wow...Maureen is alive and well. With a far better essay than I could've mustered!
I should add that folks who don't know much about amplifiers often read the wattage rating off the back of the amp, it's usually on a tag that says what kind of outlet you can plug the amp into, e.g. 115 volts 60Hz.
That's how much power the amp consumes. Since amplifiers are nowhere near 100% efficient, the amp has to put out less power than it consumes. Possibly the Princeton in question *says* 30 Watts on the back, but that's no indication of output power.
I see this mistake all the time on ebay.
Moreen5000@aol.com wrote:
Fender started making Princetons back in1946 ... back then it was called
the 1 x 8 K&F and evolved into what is known as a Princeton in 1947. I doubt
if the club has anything earlier than a 60's era Princeton so here's a bit of
what I remember and know about the 60's, 70's and 80's era Princetons and
Princeton Reverbs. The Priceton Reverb was first introduced in late '64 and
was
simply the basic Princeton with a 10" speaker, with the addition of Reverb and
Tremelo. They were rated at 12 watts RMS back in the 60's and up til 1982 when
they upped the wattage to 20 watts RMS with the introduction of the Princeton
Reverb II. Princetons from 1960 to 1963 were brown tolex with the tan grille
and in '63-'64 switched over to the familiar black tolex with silver grille
and
were blackface up til '67 and went to silverface in '68 and stayed that way
thru the 70's. Remember there can be some overlap in all these faceplates and
grilles, even the knobs. In an odd twist Fender offered as an option ( and
eventually switched to ) blackface with a silver grille in 1980, and kept with
that until the introduction of the Princeton Reverb II in '82, which lasted
til
1986. The Princeton Reverb II had a 12" speaker, 20 watts RMS, which Fender
was
fond of claiming " we made 20 watts sound like a million " and the tone and
volume controls had pull knobs for various select and tone functions, offering
a wider choice of sounds, and was blackface with silver grille and I suspect
is the amp the club is telling you they have.
I would ask the club what size speaker the amp they have has, which
will tell you wether it's a 12 watt RMS Princeton Reverb or 20 watt RMS
Princeton
Reverb II amp. Either is capable of 30 watts peak power, and they both sound
great, and are outstanding studio amps, and can be used somewhat for live
work, tho' I personally prefer the Princeton Reverb over the " II ". Back when
I
was in the Not Quite, we used to occasionally rent out our PA system and our
sound man, and I remember doing sound for this country rock band several times
(
at outdoor fairs ) and their lead player had a Princeton Reverb, and when
miked up it sounded great. You should probably plan for the possibility you
might
want to mike up the amp in the club as well depending on how loud the rest of
the band plays and the size of the club. Anyway good luck with the gig !!!
ahhhhhh Class A circuitry and tubes ... maureen
In a message dated 1/3/08 11:12:51 AM, NankerPhlg@aol.com writes:
>
> So....I'm doing a gig this Saturday, and I'm presently reviewing the
club's
> backline to see what we need/don't need to bring...and they list having a
> silver face Fender Princeton Reverb...which they're claiming is 30 watts.
>
> I was a little dubious of that...I thought all Princeton Reverbs were in
> the
> 12-15 watt range.
>
> Of course, if I were going to be in Manhattan before Saturday I'd go there
> (Parkside Lounge) and ask if I could take a look at this amp myself, but
> unfortunately I can't...so instead I'll ask the kind folks in here, because
> I'm
> sure someone in here with know: Did Fender indeed actually make Princeton
> Reverbs in the 30 watt range?
>
>
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