[bomp] The Fifth Estate, The Barbarians

[Louis Shukat <louis_shukat@xxxxxxxxx>]

Actually, Tim, this is a key paragraph:

Looking for information on the highly influential
Wayne Wadhams, Berklee Professor and producer of Full
Circle, singer in The Fifth Estate? Don't look here. 
There should be a lot more about Moulty & The
Barbarians,


--- Tim Downie <tim@marsrecords.com> wrote:
> The only thing Count  Viglione
> 
> did for Boston was release Unnatural Axe's first ep
> ..
> 
> I know of no other record that he released that
> holds any weight in the city 
> ..
The Count released rare and wonderful Moulty & The
Barbarians tracks which Brett actually reviewed in the
Real Paper along with Willie Loco and Walter Powers
first Post-Velvet Underground recordings - "Cause I'm
Taking You To bed" and "Modern Lovers" - 

He's also got Wayne Wadhams of THE FIFTH ESTATE on the
DEMO THAT GOT THE DEAL cd with the demos that got the
deal for a truly great sixties band that all BOMP
readers should adore.  "Ding Dong The Witch Is Back"
is just one of their highly collectible CDs.

The absence of THE FIFTH ESTATE and the one paragraph
on Moulty or so in the book really misses the boat.
The Barbarians were the original rave-up band from
Provincetown with an appearance in the TAMI show - and
a lengthy discussion of that should be in ANY book
that claims to be "A" history of Boston rock & roll

Pointing out that Brett didn't do the "painstaking
research" that Oedipus claims he did on the back of
the book is part of a critic's job.

It reads like a bunch of issues of the Noise - one
segment of Boston Rock & Roll but hardly a history.

Wayne Wadhams of THE FIFTH ESTATE is a key figure in
Boston music - having built the studios at Berklee
college and launching STUDIO B on Boylston Street in
the 70s with one of the first Boston compilations
ever.

Haven't seen anyone reference Brett's book, only
attacks on the reviewer - kind of like George W. Bush
bashing Michael Moore without seeing the movie.
At least Vig does the research and some of you people
can't stand his attention to detail.

Also saw Nancy Neon give him a big hug at The Lyres
show tonight at The Cantab so those remarks about
Brett's chest are way off base.  Was Brett at the
Lyres show?  or on radio with Willie Loco Alexander
last week:

You can hear joe Interview Willie Loco on WMWM Last
week (September 9th) here:

http://raccoonradio.freehostia.com/Air/

go to:  TOT07909.mp3            
09-Sep-2007 21:47  59.5M  



> 
> 
> ----- Origina
> l Message ----- 
> From: "Crawdaddy Simon"
> <crawdaddy.simon@sympatico.ca>
> To: <bomp@xnet2.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 5:54 PM
> Subject: [bomp] Re: review of Brett Milano's book
> 
> 
> >
> > Seriously, does anybody outside of Viglione
> himself give more than half a 
> > fuck about most of the people he mentions?
> >
> >
> >> This book is his version of the Boston music
> scene
> >
> > Whose version is it gonna be, he wrote the damn
> thing.
> >
> >
> >> Didi Stewart & The Amplifiers(one mention of Didi
> that I
> >> could find)
> >
> > Only one mention of Didi? Oh well that's it, count
> me out then.
> >
> >
> >> If you want to read about "Brett Milano's
> Favorite
> >> Boston Rock & Roll Bands" - The Pixies, Mission
> of
> >> Burma, The Lyres and a few more essays from the
> Milano
> >> scrapbook, the list is $24.95.
> >
> > But who's gonna buy a book about Jon Butcher's
> Axis & Johanna Wild bands, 
> > Farrenheit, Girls Night Out or Fox Pass outside of
> Boston, let alone 
> > publish one in the first place? I dig Andy Pratt,
> but I'm not so out of 
> > touch as to believe he matters more than Burma in
> 2007.
> >
> >
> >> If Mission Of Burma are featured, yet leader
> Roger Miller
> >> hailed from Ann Arbor, why couldn't Milano have
> done
> >> pages and pages on other huge figures
> >> like Al Kooper, Stones producer Jimmy Miller,
> Herb
> >> Reed of The Platters and author of Grammy winning
> song
> >> "A Natural Man" and "Sunny" Bobby Hebb
> >> who lived in the Rockport area for decades.
> >
> > So kinda like a book-length version of Viglione's
> consistently unreadable 
> > All-Music Guide reviews?
> >
> >
> >> If you're
> >> looking for extensive information on Ron
> Scarlett,
> >> Childhood, Little Joe Cook (with a
> >> world's record number of appearances at The
> Cantab),
> >> Mickey Bliss, John Kalishes (of Susan and the Ben
> Orr
> >> Band), Jonzun Crew/Peter Wolf/New Kids
> >> On The Block guitarist Tony Rocks, Quill (a
> sentence
> >> and a half or so), Shane Champagne, Gary Shane &
> The
> >> Detour, Pure & Easy Records and other key figures
> >
> > Yeah... no.
> >
> >  CS
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <mingus2225@aol.com>
> > To: <bomp@xnet2.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [bomp] review of Brett Milano's book
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Wow, what a caustic and bitter review.
> >>
> >> I can understand having issues with Milano's
> book,
> >> but that "review" is nothing but an all-out
> attack.
> >>
> >> "HE DIDN'T WRITE THE BOOK I WOULD HAVE WROTE
> WAHHHH"
> >>
> >> Go write your own book, Joe.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Louis Shukat <louis_shukat@yahoo.com>
> >> To: bomp@xnet2.com
> >> Sent: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 4:34 pm
> >> Subject: [bomp] review of Brett Milano's book
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> from our friend Joe
> >>
> >>
> >> REVIEW:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Brett Milano is passionate about the music he
> likes,
> >> but "The Sound Of Our Town: A History Of Boston
> Rock &
> >> Roll" (Commonwealth Editions, 2007) is more about
> >> Milano's tastes than what actually transpired. 
> This
> >> book is his version of the Boston music scene,
> and
> >> doesn't even scratch the tip of theiceberg.
> >>
> >> Looking for information on the highly influential
> >> Wayne Wadhams, Berklee Professor and producer of
> Full
> >> Circle, singer in The Fifth Estate? Don't look
> here.
> >> There should be a lot more about Moulty & The
> >> Barbarians, there's nothing I could find about
> Jon
> >> Butcher's Axis & Johanna Wild bands, Farrenheit
> (one
> >> mention of Charlie Farren?), Girls Night Out,
> Didi
> >> Stewart & The Amplifiers(one mention of Didi that
> I
> >> could find), MCA artist The Rings, two mentions
> of Fox
> >> Pass - nothing on Fox Pass founder Jon Macey who
> went
> >> on to produce demos for Elektra Records'. 
> Maxanne
> >> Sartori is not discussed and with only two
> references
> >> to Sartori - a powerful scenemaker responsible
> for
> >> helping Billy Squier, Aerosmith, The
> >> Cars, Fox Pass...in fact, why is Squier and his
> band
> >> Piper merely glossed over?
> >>
> >> If you want to read about "Brett Milano's
> Favorite
> >> Boston Rock & Roll Bands" - The Pixies, Mission
> of
> >> Burma, The Lyres and a few more essays from the
> Milano
> >> scrapbook, the list is $24.95.  If you want to
> read an
> >> objective overview of the Boston Music Scene just
> put
> >> "Boston Music Scene" in google, you'll get much
> better
> >> results.    Brett is a much better
> >> writer than this and needed to be more objective
> and
> >> less tunnel-vision.  This is hardly "The Sound Of
> Our
> >> Town" and by leaving so many important
> individuals
> >> out, or putting other acts higher up on the
> >> ladder, Milano does a great disservice to the
> scene he
> >> is claiming to document.   There are thousands of
> >> hours of interviews on audio and videotape and
> tens of
> >> thousands of articles on the Boston area scene
> that
> >> Milano could have accessed if he really wanted to
> 
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