Re: [bomp] How Silver Lake/Los Feliz/Echo Park "happened"

[Michael Snider <lasciviumdei@xxxxxxxxx>]

ItsBoss9@aol.com wrote:    
now common that bands and performers must pay venue operators to use their 
stage, sometimes inefficient sound systems and door people-- or even must 
pay 4: 
load in, soundcheck, posters etc.-- standard gig support/supplies stuff that 
clubs used to provide are now a "band expense".----------------

We've had this problem in L.A. since Whisky a Go Go "re-opened" in 1984, and 
then all the local clubs (except the Cavern, Anti-Club and maybe a couple 
more) copied them! 
   
  You have your facts wrong about the Anti-Club, Dom - it DID go pay to play in the late 80s when pay to play was at its height in LA - that's why my band never played there. I tried to get a show there once without playing (it was our strict policy to NEVER pay to play) and Reine offered us a slot going on last on Mon. night, which I turned down. The Cathay de Grande and Raji's were NEVER pay to play at any time, and, TBF, nor was Wong's (the original Wong's downtown was a great club, but Wong's West was a typical westside nowhere shithole) 
   
   
   
   
  What kinda transpired is that all the smart musicians sorta 
boycotted playing those places... for a while, this led to L.A. being totally 
dominated by sub-human metal scum, and there being NO cool scene in L.A. for a 
few years, 
   
  The Cathay was very much there during that period, I played there and saw a ton of cool shows there (too many to remember) and after that was over Dobbs started Raji's
   
   
  but eventually the boycotting people shifted over to parts of 
Hollywood that white-flite parented Valley jerks (who liked to "hunt" for punk 
rockers to beat up) wouldn't go to and therefore, freedom from both pay-to-play, 
and hessians, all in one bag.

People just have to open their own places away from the common shitholes, and 
stuff will thrive. Just went to Safari Sam's for the Dandy club last night. 
Safari Sam's was GODHEAD right during the Cavern days out in Huntington Beach 
(1985-1987 at least)... that guy stuck it out and now has a huge place on the 
East Side of Hollywood... far from the very bad contemporary version of the 
Sunset Strip.
   
  Safari Sam's might do to Spaceland what Amoeba did to Aron's, however, unlike in the case of Aron's, I won't be that sad about Spaceland suffering
  a similar fate 

np Artie Shaw, Nightmare 


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